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Small Tarsal or Carpal


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This is the time that my northern relatives like to seek warmer weather,  so I am juggling guests, traveling , and fossil hunting... I was out Sunday and not again until today..

Once again, I went to a location that I had thought was dug out years ago, including lots of trips by me. Here is a group photo of the "best" finds...IMG_0969grp.jpg.698222fc8201b548086e8de7d0bcd01b.jpg

A great Butterfly osteoderm, 2 chunks of fossilized wood, a camel_llama tooth without roots, a nice 33mm Meg and a tarsal or carpal from an unknown (to me ) mammal. Extra credit for identifying what type of tree provided the wood.

The tarsal/carpal is 32x24x13 mm. I am used to seeing Equus tarsals or carpals.  This one seems really small and maybe is not equus.  All comments, suggestions appreciated.

Some more photos:

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Can't help, but jolly nice finds! :)

Excellent. 

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I'm going to throw "Oak" out there for the pet. wood.

 

And I am sooo sorry you had to wait a whole 4 days between hunts, it must be painful!

 

 

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The Butterfly osteoderm has a lovely patina.  Nice finds.

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6 minutes ago, Darktooth said:

Nice little meg!

I agree. I like the meg!

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1 hour ago, caldigger said:

I'm going to throw "Oak" out there for the pet. wood.

 

And I am sooo sorry you had to wait a whole 4 days between hunts, it must be painful!

It is my job, my addiction, my exercise program, etc.. In season , I go 3-4 times a week (and recognize how lucky I am) .. Do you know how someone who goes to the gym for exercise every other day, says that they get irritated and out of sorts if they are forced to miss a time or two... That's me with fossil hunting:D

There are 2 chunks of wood.. Is it this one you think is Oak, Note the different fossilization in the "bark"..IMG_0947FossilizedWood2.jpg.3b4e76280734fb28bb7f86b1a6ec95f0.jpgIMG_0948FossilizedWood2.jpg.fc795834921e775e2f5b5a6501452873.jpg

1 hour ago, Innocentx said:

The Butterfly osteoderm has a lovely patina.  Nice finds.

It is the best one I have ever found.. Goes into the collection....

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54 minutes ago, SailingAlongToo said:

I agree. I like the meg!

A closeup, Note the minimal bourlette.

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@Shellseeker

That is an absolutely gorgeous little tooth. And, it doesn't take up much space in the display cabinet or shelf. That alone would have made my hunting day. If I found nothing before or after it, the day would have been a success with that in the bag.

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Hey Jack, nice finds! Dang, seeing your stuff makes me want to get out in the creeks/river but it just aint happening right now. I did stick my hands in a pond the other day for some inverts. :) Nice finds!

 

Cant help much...Love the wood pieces...Question for you about the "butterfly osteoderm". I hadnt heard that term before and it sure does look like that doesnt it...Reminds me fondly of the armadillo vert I found awhile back that I call my star wars vert. I had forgotten about it till now. Anyways. thinking your nuchal element might be from Trachemys...might be T. inflata...Looks alot like this one on the UF site. scroll down a bit and you'll see it.

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/florida-vertebrate-fossils/land-mammal-ages/hemphillian/

Harry's got an image in his gallery also. Not sure why when I try to paste the link it automatically copies his image with the copyright but...kudos to Harry!

 

Keep showing the finds. Keeps me motivated. Thanks! 

Regards, Chris 

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"Butterfly osteoderm" is wrong in multiple ways:  It's a bone called a nuchal bone from the carapace of a turtle; it is NOT an osteoderm.  The only resemblance to a butterfly is in a two dimensional image.  This nuchal is highly sculptured like no butterfly.  "Butterfly osteoderm" conveys no useful information; if fact, it conveys misinformation.  It's not even efficient, substituting 18 letters for six.

 

 

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Thanks for explaining, Harry.  I was wondering what the heck a 'butterfly osteoderm' was. 

 

Cool find, shellseeker. 

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Certainly Harry is correct... I referred to this Nuchal bone, which is a somewhat frequent find in Southwest Florida rivers and creeks with a local colloquialism recognizable by many of the local fossil hunters. Not very effective to use terms only recognized locally.

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