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Tinad

Hi. Please forgive this ignorant amateur who has little knowledge of fossils. I would appreciate any feedback. I recently bought these from China and regrettably fear that they are not real. I placed one in water and sediment showed up. It also had a strange sweet smell, and from what I've read, they're not supposed to have any odour. Also, I can scrape it with a knife. Did I spend $50 on snarge?

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ynot

I am having a hard time seeing any fossil here.

What is it supposed to be?

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Fruitbat

Coprolites, perhaps?

 

-Joe

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bcfossilcollector

I agree with Fruitbat they appear to be coprolites.

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Tidgy's Dad

I think they may be turtle coprolites. 

I think they're real, I had one almost exactly the same as the one on the bottom left, and have seen many like the other two. 

They're not uncommon or expensive, so can't see the reason for any jiggery-pokery..

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Troodon

The auction site is full of them from China, claim to be corprolites dinosaurs :P  I think they are from Madagascar and marketed from china.  Are they minerals like the Washington State ones.

 

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Online dealers are selling these cheap 25 USD as turtle from Madagascar 

 

 

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michele 1937

confirm turtle coproliths.
Origin Morocco

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Tinad

Thank you for your inputs. The seller stated that they were " rare dinosaur dung fossil petrified poop". So, they are turtle droppings and not necessarily millions of years old. Right? But I still don't understand why I can scrape tiny pieces off ( doesn't petrified mean hard like a rock?) and, why the sweet smelling odour when I put it in water?

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Troodon
11 minutes ago, Tinad said:

Thank you for your inputs. The seller stated that they were " rare dinosaur dung fossil petrified poop". So, they are turtle droppings and not necessarily millions of years old. Right? But I still don't understand why I can scrape tiny pieces off ( doesn't petrified mean hard like a rock?) and, why the sweet smelling odour when I put it in water?

I believe it's inconclusive what they are if you read the TFF post that I attached.  

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SULLY

Look like poo! Doesn't look old though unfortunately

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Fruitbat

Keep in mind that animals have been producing coprolites since they first appeared and they continue to do so today!  Without any specific provenance (China is a BIG place), there is no telling how old these things (if they are indeed coprolites) may be.

 

-Joe

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Darktooth
4 hours ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

I think they may be turtle coprolites. 

I think they're real, I had one almost exactly the same as the one on the bottom left, and have seen many like the other two. 

They're not uncommon or expensive, so can't see the reason for any jiggery-pokery..

Adam, can you please explain the term "jiggery- pokery"?  Is this a magic spell from Harry Potter?:hearty-laugh:

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caldigger

If anybody is going to recognize turtle poop it's this guy ---> Tidgy's Dad.

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RJB

My vote,,,, coprolite.

 

RB

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Tidgy's Dad
3 hours ago, Darktooth said:

Adam, can you please explain the term "jiggery- pokery"?  Is this a magic spell from Harry Potter?:hearty-laugh:

It's the very latest  scientific term used for the fabrication of, or compositing of fossils. 

I'll post the paper.

Later. 

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ynot
10 hours ago, Tinad said:

But I still don't understand why I can scrape tiny pieces off ( doesn't petrified mean hard like a rock?

Rocks come in all sorts of different hardness. Some are loosely consolidated and can be picked apart quite easily while others can be quite hard.

Sometimes a glue will be used to stabilize things that are very fragile. Putting Your pieces in water may have weakened the glue used on these pieces.

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Coco

Hi,

 

Isn't odour come from pyrite or metal mineral ?

 

Coco

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Ludwigia

Why don't we ask our expert? @GeschWhat ?

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Seguidora-de-Isis

I agree! No one here at TFF knows more about the essence of a good poop than our friend @Tidgy's Dad! And if he says it's a poop, then I believe! :rofl:

 

I have as an example a deceitful seller who deceived me and continues to deceive others by selling at our favorite auction site, siderite concretions as if they were coprolites of Niobrara Chalk Formation:

 

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Note: I've never been fooled by a Chinese salesman, I've never been fooled by a Moroccan salesman ... It was an American salesman who fooled me!

 

And when the siderite concretion does not look like a coprolite at all, it sells like: "Alive Rainbow Boji Stones aka Kansas Pop Rocks Shamanic Healing Energy"! Look:

 

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Or "Pop Rocks - Boji Stones Shaman Moqui Healing crystal nodules". Look:

 

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So here we have a clear demonstration that not all the concretions of a certain mineral, like the siderite, for example, look like a coprolite, on the contrary, most do not look at all!

 

Now when the subject is Madagascar coprolite, absolutely they all have the typical poop format:

 

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And I simply refuse to believe that all of them can be merely mere coincidence or mere chance!

 

Below are two more examples that are deposited in my private collection:

 

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And it is in this type of rock matrix in which they are discovered:

 

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Tidgy's Dad
7 hours ago, Seguidora-de-Isis said:

I agree! No one here at TFF knows more about the essence of a good poop than our friend @Tidgy's Dad! And if he says it's a poop, then I believe! :rofl:

 

I have as an example a deceitful seller who deceived me and continues to deceive others by selling at our favorite auction site, siderite concretions as if they were coprolites of Niobrara Chalk Formation:

 

Note: I've never been fooled by a Chinese salesman, I've never been fooled by a Moroccan salesman ... It was an American salesman who fooled me!

 

And when the siderite concretion does not look like a coprolite at all, it sells like: "Alive Rainbow Boji Stones aka Kansas Pop Rocks Shamanic Healing Energy"! Look:

 

Or "Pop Rocks - Boji Stones Shaman Moqui Healing crystal nodules". Look:

So here we have a clear demonstration that not all the concretions of a certain mineral, like the siderite, for example, look like a coprolite, on the contrary, most do not look at all!

 

Now when the subject is Madagascar coprolite, absolutely they all have the typical poop format:

 

And I simply refuse to believe that all of them can be merely mere coincidence or mere chance!

 

Below are two more examples that are deposited in my private collection:

 

And it is in this type of rock matrix in which they are discovered:

 

You seem to be well informed about poop yourself, my friend! 

You have lots of lovely poop there! 

Do you spend a lot of time licking it? ;)

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Tinad

Licking it??? Yucky poo! I'm having a hard enough time slicing a piece so I can make a pendant for a special boy!

but thanks for the informative update.

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Tidgy's Dad
25 minutes ago, Tinad said:

Licking it??? Yucky poo! I'm having a hard enough time slicing a piece so I can make a pendant for a special boy!

but thanks for the informative update.

If it sticks to your tongue, it's a good indication that it might be a coprolite. 

Or so they say.

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Seguidora-de-Isis
On 01/04/2018 at 8:36 AM, Tidgy's Dad said:

You seem to be well informed about poop yourself, my friend! 

You have lots of lovely poop there! 

Do you spend a lot of time licking it? ;)

 

I just lick when I'm in doubt! If it sticks easily on my tongue and possesses sweet taste and smell, then it is an excellent indication that it can be a good coprolite! :muahaha:

 

:rofl:

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