Hapchazzard Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I've posted this same coral some time ago, along with a bunch of other finds from the same locality, but it's identity is still bugging me. In my search, I've narrowed the potential genus down to either Cladocora or the montlivaltid Thecosmilia. The locality is the Čerevićki potok fm., Serbia, Maastrichtean. In the Paleobiology Database, only Thecosmilia has been reported in the locality, but Cladocora was also apparently reported in the relative geographic vicinity. View of the entire colony: View of the entire colony(up close): View of the corallites: Album link: https://imgur.com/a/vtWMX Here's the descriptions of both genera, from Corallosphere: Cladocora Thecosmilia So, what's your judgment? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 @FossilDAWG @TqB Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malone Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Hapchazzard said: I've posted this same coral some time ago, along with a bunch of other finds from the same locality, but it's identity is still bugging me. In my search, I've narrowed the potential genus down to either Cladocora or the montlivaltid Thecosmilia. The locality is the Čerevićki potok fm., Serbia, Maastrichtean. In the Paleobiology Database, only Thecosmilia has been reported in the locality, but Cladocora was also apparently reported in the relative geographic vicinity. View of the entire colony: View of the entire colony(up close): View of the corallites: Album link: https://imgur.com/a/vtWMX Here's the descriptions of both genera, from Corallosphere: Cladocora Thecosmilia So, what's your judgment? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you great links! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 The fossil corals from that locality were described in P. Gyula, E. Pratz. 1910. A petervaradi hegyseg (Fruska Gora) Kretaidoszaki (Hipersenon-) faunaja. There are the orignal designations of that time, which are probably outdated. link " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malone Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, abyssunder said: The fossil corals from that locality were described in P. Gyula, E. Pratz. 1910. A petervaradi hegyseg (Fruska Gora) Kretaidoszaki (Hipersenon-) faunaja. There are the orignal designations of that time, which are probably outdated. link Are you saying the aforementioned links posted by hapchazzard are outdated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapchazzard Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 10 hours ago, abyssunder said: The fossil corals from that locality were described in P. Gyula, E. Pratz. 1910. A petervaradi hegyseg (Fruska Gora) Kretaidoszaki (Hipersenon-) faunaja. There are the orignal designations of that time, which are probably outdated. link I've already checked that document (which you so kindly provided to me some time ago) and, unfortunately, there are no corals in the list that even vaguely resemble what I have (at least those with pictures). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pachy Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Hapchazzard said: I've already checked that document (which you so kindly provided to me some time ago) and, unfortunately, there are no corals in the list that even vaguely resemble what I have (at least those with pictures). As you say, nothing in this document matches your sample. In any case, it is appreciated the contribution of this type of specific documentation of the collection sites. As for your sample, little can be seen in it. It's just a ramose colony. I would rule out Thecosmilia. It could be Cladocora, but it seems to be a tertiary genus. Perhaps some other member of the Cladocoridae family such as Procladocora or Dordonophyllia. This is one of those cases in which one talks a lot and ends up saying nothing in particular. The specimen does not give much more either. Maybe someone can contribute something more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansTheLoser Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Thecosmilia almost does not reach the Upper Cretaceous, only the Lower Cenomanian. To be able to say more about this sample, a polished section is needed. There are douzens of genera that look alike. At a first glance I would agree with Pachy, Cladocoridae is good guess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansTheLoser Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 BTW, Cerevicki Potok is Campanian (Belemnitella mucronata, Parapachydiscus gollevillensis, Baculites anceps, Inoceramus balticus). For details see: Géczy, B. 1954. Cyclolites (Anth.) tanulmányok. [Studies on the Cyclolites (Anthozoa).] - Geologica Hungarica, (palaeontologica), 24: 1-180, pl.1-10 (Budapest). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I like those old documents. They are unique. To shorten the search for everyone, here it is. BTW, it's in Hungarian and plate X (with explanations) is missing, but it's a nice work. Thank you, Hans, for the reference ! " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 This document might be of interest: R. Radoicic & D. Jovanovic. 2012. Upper Cretaceous of the Cerevicki Potok, Fruska Gora Mt., Serbia: State of art. Geoloski anali Balkanskoga poluostrva 73: 31-36 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansTheLoser Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Géczy I have got still as a book but thank you for the link. The 2012 paper was unknown to me. I browse all the mainstream journals but I have less access to the local stuff. Thanks Abyssunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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