MedicineHat Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I hammered this free from a chunk of ironstone. Ironstone matrix. I thought it was completely round like a marble nut the more I inspected I see some traits that this is a designed specimen with a symmetrical pattern and some unique patterns. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 This looks like an iron/siderite concretion, to me. Wait for some more opinions, though. 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Yes, a concretion, methinks. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Auspex Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 If it was the nucleating core of the concretion, it (or something inside it yet) was something that bacteria could feed on. It is the by-products of such bacterial action that cause the accretion of environmental iron that cements the concretion. I do not think that this object is/was a plant seed, but something organic existed to cause the concretion. 4 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malone Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 It looks somewhat botryoidal beneath the "crust", and the anomaly to the spherical shape is curious. Concretions are a very intriguing form. I am studying them vigorously to try to understand their origins. I believe, from what I have read, some are still a mystery to science. Trying to understand the precursors to the current physical/chemical state will be a main defining factor when visual characteristics are ambiguous. I have found hundreds of concretions and believe the shapes, even when completely mineralized and taken an unoriginal shape, can help with identification. It would be interesting to know what is "inside". I have found pyrite and limonite in the ones in my area, but have read of many different elemental combinations. Until I have access to costly equipment I will remain ignorant in many respects. I am still trying to understand whether chemicals migrate to or away from an object. If both are true then how to determine which is which. I am sure there are more informed people than me. I will watch this thread and similar ones to learn. Thank you for your post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineHat Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Thanks everyone for your input. It sounds like it is probably a concretion then. I almost certainly thought it was something else because of the shape, but maybe someone else will have a differential diagnosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malone Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, MedicineHat said: Thanks everyone for your input. It sounds like it is probably a concretion then. I almost certainly thought it was something else because of the shape, but maybe someone else will have a differential diagnosis. I would still curious of the origin. A seed or numerous other objects could be the source. If you do end up cutting it open I would certainly be interested in what you find. Even if you don't cut it open and you find out any more about the object I would be interested. Many concretions have organic origins. Anyway have a great day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malone Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Here's a pic of some from Pueblo Colorado and one that I opened. I don't have a definitive origin for these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malone Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 The U.S.G.S. only says there are limonite/ siderite/ goethite/ and pyrite concretions. The only statement of origin is limited to a statement saying fossils are sometimes the nucleus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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