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This is a big fish fossil found at Luoping of Guizhou.  It’s a giant of 2.1m.  The prepping was done poorly with some craftwork (compare the unprepped slab).  Any idea what species it is?

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This looks completely fake to me. :( 

It looks like it's been carved. 

 

The skull bones don't look right, the scales do not line up in a natural way. :unsure: 

I'd stay away from it. 

 

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25 minutes ago, Crazyhen said:

This is a big fish fossil found at Luoping of Guizhou.  It’s a giant of 2.1m.  The prepping was done poorly with some craftwor (compare the unprepped slab).  Any idea what species it is?

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It looks like a small child drew it.

  I am not really seeing bone parts in the areas that are outlined. The fins look like carved out parts of the stone slab.

No skull bones, just tool marks and carved scales.

The other slab doesn't look like there is a fish in it either. Just an outline of what they plan to carve.

I have to say, there is a heck of a lot of work that went into making all those scales!

 

 

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Agreed. Doesn't even look doctored. It looks entirely sculpted. And the tail is perpendicular to how it should be. Folk art.

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It really looks carved. The tail is awfully faked, I would pass it for sure.

Life started in the ocean. And so did my interest in fossils;).

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 No detail in the skull or fins why do you say its poorly prepped versus fabricated.  Does prepping include carving to make it look like its complete and very nice to sell.

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Here is what is wrong with it, in my eyes.

 

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Skull bones don't look right. 

No fin rays visible.

Scales going in different directions,mineral veins do not continue through the fish, in some areas.

That said, I think some of the tail may actually be partially there, but the majority of this "fish" looks completely carved out of the rock. 

 

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38 minutes ago, Troodon said:

 No detail in the skull or fins why do you say its poorly prepped versus fabricated.  Does prepping include carving to make it look like its complete and very nice to sell.

Yes, the standard practice there is to prep a fossil with craving to make it look like a complete fossil for selling at a better price, as a craftwork rather than a fossil, sadly.

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19 minutes ago, Crazyhen said:

Yes, the standard practice there is to prep a fossil with craving to make it look like a complete fossil for selling at a better price, as a craftwork rather than a fossil, sadly.

So its a bit like the Green River fossil fishes we see sold,  where the fins are painted on to enhance the fossil and make them more sellable.  In this case we see carving in place of painting but the core fish is very real.

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Fakeichthys coeolotura . :P 

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3 hours ago, oilshale said:

Thomas you’re very right, Luoping is in Yunnan.  The fish was found at Anshun of Guizhou, not Luoping.   I got it wrong in the first place, sorry for the mistake!

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4 hours ago, Crazyhen said:

Yes, the standard practice there is to prep a fossil with craving to make it look like a complete fossil for selling at a better price, as a craftwork rather than a fossil, sadly.

 

You can find that in many other countries too. In China there are not so many collectors, but the wealthy population wants to buy representative pieces for decoration. They get what they want. 

These pieces are not intended for fossil collectors

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