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Looks strikingly similar to one @Fossil-Hound found. A juvenile giant thresher maybe?

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25 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said:

Looks strikingly similar to one @Fossil-Hound found. A juvenile giant thresher maybe?

I traded this and other teeth to Fossil hound for a trilobite!!! :) 

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You might consider putting some type of scale in your photos to give the viewers perspective. Ruler, tape measure, etc. Just a suggestion.

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It is definitely an Alopias species, but not a giant thresher.

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1 hour ago, eannis6 said:

I traded this and other teeth to Fossil hound for a trilobite!!! :) 

Well then, very similar:P

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Mason

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56 minutes ago, SailingAlongToo said:

@eannis6

You might consider putting some type of scale in your photos to give the viewers perspective. Ruler, tape measure, etc. Just a suggestion.

I normally do, but the tooth is no longer in my possession, it’s about .5 inch long though, maybe a bit under.

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@eannis6 @Fossil Hound I would like to see a side view of this tooth. I am wondering if this could be a worn Physogaleus contortus. The bend of the main blade does not say Alopias to me. @MarcoSr @Al Dente @siteseer

No matter what it is, it is very hard to I.D. any tooth with only a lingual view. 

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I agree with Steve that the tooth is "definitely an Alopias species, but not a giant thresher".  The tooth looks like it could be an Alopias superciliosus or an Alopias latidens (fossil species name)/Alopias vulpinus (extant species name).  Check out the below extant Alopias superciliosus dentition from J-elasmo.   Alopias superciliosus teeth can have a prominent nutrient groove as shown below but the groove becomes less obvious as the shark grows.   Because of root wear on the posted tooth it is difficult to tell if the posted tooth may have had a nutrient groove.

 

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Thanks for posting that dentition @MarcoSr it definitely changes my opinion on this tooth.

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On 3/31/2018 at 8:02 AM, MarcoSr said:

I agree with Steve that the tooth is "definitely an Alopias species, but not a giant thresher".  The tooth looks like it could be an Alopias superciliosus or an Alopias latidens (fossil species name)/Alopias vulpinus (extant species name).  Check out the below extant Alopias superciliosus dentition from J-elasmo.   Alopias superciliosus teeth can have a prominent nutrient groove as shown below but the groove becomes less obvious as the shark grows.   Because of root wear on the posted tooth it is difficult to tell if the posted tooth may have had a nutrient groove.

 

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Thanks for the help, I have a better understanding of the tooth type now!!!! :) 

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On 3/30/2018 at 6:52 PM, sixgill pete said:

@eannis6 @Fossil Hound I would like to see a side view of this tooth. I am wondering if this could be a worn Physogaleus contortus. The bend of the main blade does not say Alopias to me. @MarcoSr @Al Dente @siteseer

No matter what it is, it is very hard to I.D. any tooth with only a lingual view. 

Thanks for the help Sixgill!!!! :) 

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