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I saw this Hemipristis tooth for sale, and I’m falling in love with it, but I was wondering if the blue color of it is a normal occurrence. It is from Bone Valley. Thanks in advance!

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That's lovely. 

Looks good to me. :)

But wait for the toothy experts! 

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Yes I have a number that look exactly like that.  It's a beautiful tooth.  Color variation with BV teeth is normal with lots of shades of blue.

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This is one of the two common color morphs out of the phosphate.  The white roots, along with color in the crown, quickly turn dark in the Peace River.  Here is the other common color morph out of the phosphate:

 

 

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Very nice tooth! Go for it!:) I want a Bone Valley Meg some day!

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I have a bone valley meg somewhere, I think I put it in my gallery, not quite as vibrant but same awesome color. 

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Teeth come in a large variety of colors depending on the composition of the sediments they fossilized in. Blue teeth are common from Bone Valley and certain formations in North Carolina. There are also places that produce vibrant red teeth here in N.C. However, if it is the one I found on our favorite auction site, in my opinion the price is awfully high. 

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12 hours ago, sixgill pete said:

Teeth come in a large variety of colors depending on the composition of the sediments they fossilized in. Blue teeth are common from Bone Valley and certain formations in North Carolina. There are also places that produce vibrant red teeth here in N.C. However, if it is the one I found on our favorite auction site, in my opinion the price is awfully high. 

It probably is the same one, and after looking at other Hemipristis teeth I also feel it was a bit overpriced. Could that be because of the color? I just love how it looks though.

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7 hours ago, thelivingdead531 said:

It probably is the same one, and after looking at other Hemipristis teeth I also feel it was a bit overpriced. Could that be because of the color? I just love how it looks though.

 

I am sure the price is due to the color and where it is from. If it came out of one if the phosphate pits that does make it much rarer. It is a beautiful tooth and I would expect it to sell for a premium. I guess what it boils down to is what someone is willing to pay.

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Why has no one mentioned the fissure in the tooth root?  The bulk of the root is very vulnerable to separating.  If you buy this tooth, be prepared to stabilize it.  White glue has gap-filling properties.  Add some white tempera pigment to try to match the root color.  Fill the crack through a hypodermic needle.  (Veterinarian-gauge needles are available at farm supply stores -- in the USA, anyway.)  Or, look for a similar tooth in better condition.

 

 

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Agree that it is a pretty tooth with nice coloration (and reasonably large) but the crack in the root and the steep price would tend to make me shy away from such a purchase (if I purchased fossils).

 

One has to be careful when purchasing fossils from said auction site. It always helps to have a good understanding of what you are thinking of buying. For example, this came up right under the search for the Bone Valley blue Hemi that started this topic. It was also being sold as a Bone Valley Hemipristis--caveat emptor!

 

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So I realized the two photos I’ve posted were of the same side. Here is a photo of the other side. Do you still think that it would be a gamble? 

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Just now, thelivingdead531 said:

So I realized the two photos I’ve posted were of the same side. Here is a photo of the other side. Do you still think that it would be a gamble? 

 

 

 

                                                                                                    YES!

 

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23 hours ago, Cam28 said:

Nope it's radioactive, ship it to me & I'll take care of it ;)

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I've always liked these stunning blue-black, white-rooted Bone Valley teeth. If you want to avoid root separation, though, keep shopping.:)

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  I would also chime in just to add caution when buying anything online when there are images involved.  Color can be a very subjective and manipulated (intentional or otherwise) aspect of any image online.  This can shift depending on the time of day, color of the lighting, temperature of the lighting, light metering, color balancing happening in post etc .... I will say that most of the "blue" teeth are in reality (when you have them in-hand) shifted more in the desaturated blue-grey range.

 

  The blown out white root (that you see in the image) usually being an indication that the contrast and/or brightness is/has shifted.  This can intensify a color's saturation and give it the sense that it might be an electric blue when in fact it is closer to a more desaturated slate blue-grey.  Folks use the color blue too often to describe some of these teeth and personally I think that is a stretch.  That is the artist in me of course.

 

  You show me a true electric-blue saturated tooth from that location and I will be truly floored. 

 

Cheers,

Brett

 

PS. All of that aside of course they are real lookers and I own a few myself. So really, I have no say in the matter of your happiness. haha

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I really appreciate everyone’s input and advice, you all rock! As much as I’m still drawn to this tooth, several members have pointed out the major flaw with the tooth (the crack in the root) and I’m likely going to pass on it and keep looking. 

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9 hours ago, Brett Breakin' Rocks said:

You show me a true electric-blue saturated tooth from that location and I will be truly floored. 

 

You asked. :P

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

 

 

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4 hours ago, digit said:

 

You asked. :P

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

 

 

Hahaha ..... nice.  :ighappy:

 

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I have purchased a couple of blue teeth from this seller. I would not expect this tooth to be as saturated as the picture. I suspected that when I purchased mine (the photos were similarly saturated) so i wasn't disappointed. One is blueish grey and the other is a very dark navy blue, almost black. Both are pretty, though. In my experience, colors other than blue in his photos have been pretty accurate. Your mileage may vary, of course.

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13 hours ago, Fossil'n'Roll said:

I have purchased a couple of blue teeth from this seller. I would not expect this tooth to be as saturated as the picture. I suspected that when I purchased mine (the photos were similarly saturated) so i wasn't disappointed. One is blueish grey and the other is a very dark navy blue, almost black. Both are pretty, though. In my experience, colors other than blue in his photos have been pretty accurate. Your mileage may vary, of course.

Thanks for the info! It’s good to have a first hand opiniom since you’ve bought from the same seller. 

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