Seguidora-de-Isis Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Hi. Good afternoon to everyone! In one lot, the seller is selling these two fossil fish. Please, then I have two questions: 01 - Any makeup or paint here? It's real? 02 - Which one is Knightia eocaena and which one is Knightia alta? Or are the two of a specie? Thanks for all the comments! Fish 01 Fish 02 Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indominus rex Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 They seem real to me. I can't really tell which is which because I am not an expert, but to me on the first image the one at the bottom of the slate seems like a Knightia Alta. Regards, Leander Life started in the ocean. And so did my interest in fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Common and not worth faking. I don't see any retouching either. ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I agree with Kane. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Looks 100% real to me. As far as I know K. alta is smaller and wider than K. eocaena. So these look al K. eocaena to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Nice grouping, some of the ribs might be painted. @Fossildude19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I don't see any Knightia alta here. The second one is a Knightia eocaena as well. Knightia alta has a much deeper body than K. eocaena, and also has a smaller/shorter caudal fin. I'm not seeing those features on any of these fish. I 'm pretty sure the multi plate have had the bodies and heads painted. It is a much better job than usual, but still enhanced. Luckily, it is done in such a way as to not detract from the fossil. I'd put it in my collection. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Fossildude19 said: I don't see any Knightia alta here. The second one is a Knightia eocaena as well. Knightia alta has a much deeper body than K. eocaena, and also has a smaller/shorter caudal fin. I'm not seeing those features on any of these fish. I 'm pretty sure the multi plate have had the bodies and heads painted. It is a much better job than usual, but still enhanced. Luckily, it is done in such a way as to not detract from the fossil. I'd put it in my collection. Just amazing my friend @Fossildude19 ! Thank you! Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digit Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Yup. I agree with Tim's assessment. Even those these are THE most common fossil fish in the Green River Formation and thus not worth the effort to fake, these seem to have been "enhanced". This plate from the split-fish layer is the lesser of two halves. Usually a split fish layer splits with most of the bones and scales on one side and the other side being mostly a negative impression of the other side with a few bones but not the majority (hence, the term "split-fish"). This one appears to be the side that had fewer bones (ribs, verts, fin rays, skull elements) and virtually no scales. The outline of these fish were (reasonably expertly) water color painted in so as to appear more complete. Still a pretty fossil to look at (but not as much when viewed closely). It's a nice assemblage but I'd rather have the other half of this split plate (which probably sold for more). Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecosmilia Trichitoma Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Knightia are so common that you could probably sell a good fake for more than a moderate real one It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt -Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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