DirtDetector Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I found this in the mid-2000's but never really had it checked out, I'm having a paleontologist look at it soon, but I wanted to get your guys opinions. I can only post 1 photo because there is a size limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GeschWhat Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Welcome to the forum. It has a little bit of a trilobite feel, but not my area of expertise. Best wait for the smart people! Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, DirtDetector said: . I can only post 1 photo because there is a size limit. Welcome to TFF! I see You figured out how to add pictures. If You get an oversize notice while uploading try refreshing the page. (but it will erase any writing in the reply box.) Can You post pictures of it dry? Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDetector Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, ynot said: Welcome to TFF! I see You figured out how to add pictures. If You get an oversize notice while uploading try refreshing the page. (but it will erase any writing in the reply box.) Can You post pictures of it dry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I think that you may have a brachiopod or bivalve with prominent ribs. In the bottom center of the second photo I think that I see the zig zag edge of a shell with ribs. My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Thanks for the additional picture. It is hard to be sure because the piece is worn and part is still hidden by matrix. My impression is a shell of a clam or brachiopod. Wait for more opinions. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 It looks like a brachiopod (spiriferid) remnant, to me. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I also think it is the shell ornamentation of a brachiopod or bivalve mollusc. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDetector Posted April 13, 2018 Author Share Posted April 13, 2018 Thank you guys, great to have an idea of what it could be. I never even knew they had ribs. I think the ones on the right appear to have "joints" possibly because they just cracked or something at some point. Thanks for the insight! If I find anything else I'll be sure to post it here. I live in Niagara Falls, and we have gorges that go down 900 million years, and there is just a great amount of fossils that will definitely need identifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I don’t know the typical fossils from that area, but I believe it is marine environment. It is most likely a brachiopod there by looking at the last pic posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I can't decide whether the 'ribs' are a feature poking through the matrix, or an epibiont on it. Kinda' feral lookin' for ribs on a shell. Just sayin'. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, DirtDetector said: great to have an idea of what it could be. It would help if You can post pictures from all sides. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I’m getting a spiriferid feel as well. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, Auspex said: I can't decide whether the 'ribs' are a feature poking through the matrix, or an epibiont on it. Kinda' feral lookin' for ribs on a shell. Just sayin'. Aulopora ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 59 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Aulopora ? Well, I don't see any corallites, but irregular like that; maybe something like Rhombopora? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, DirtDetector said: Thank you guys, great to have an idea of what it could be. I never even knew they had ribs. I think the ones on the right appear to have "joints" possibly because they just cracked or something at some point. Thanks for the insight! If I find anything else I'll be sure to post it here. I live in Niagara Falls, and we have gorges that go down 900 million years, and there is just a great amount of fossils that will definitely need identifying. Ha - we tend to forget how fossil jargon might sound to the uninitiated... What we cal 'ribs' or 'ribbing' is just a corrugated shell surface, not ribs as in a skeleton, though brachiopods also have an internal structure that is sometimes preserved, called a lophophore, which better fits the average person's conception of ribs. I don't think that's what you've got, but it does look like some kind of shell (brachiopod or clam).. You found it in the Niagara area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Lots of possibilities now. Curious to hear what the paleontologist has to say. I'm in the bivalve or brachiopod camp. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I'm in the bivalve camp. I have no clue what the age is in the area you found it, but to me this fossil looks a lot like a Lopha sp / Rastellum gregareum. Here is a fossil of mine very similar to yours. Mine was found on the Vaches Noires cliffs in Normandy, France, and it is from the Jurassic. Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quer Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 It reminds me a Rastellum as well, like this one I collected from the upper cretaceous Pyrenees: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I doubt there are fossil Rastellum like oysters in Lake Erie. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 22 hours ago, abyssunder said: I doubt there are fossil Rastellum like oysters in Lake Erie. How old are the sediments there? Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 7:48 PM, Quer said: It reminds me a Rastellum as well, like this one I collected from the upper cretaceous Pyrenees: Nice specimen! Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 27 minutes ago, Max-fossils said: How old are the sediments there? As far as I know, the Lake Erie shoreline fossils are Devonian. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonianDigger Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Yes, Lake Erie is Devonian. Jay A. Wollin Lead Fossil Educator - Penn Dixie Fossil Park and Nature Reserve Hamburg, New York, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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