Jazfossilator Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Another find from a beach at Lake Champlain in Vermont that I originally thought to be just a cool rock but now I see it's a fossil of something, any ideas welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I do not see anything diagnostic in this. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, ynot said: I do not see anything diagnostic in this. Look at the striations within the white part of the rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I did, as far as I can tell they are not diagnostic of what this is beyond a fossil something. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just now, ynot said: I did, as far as I can tell they are not diagnostic of what this is beyond a fossil something. Well then you have nothing constructive to add. Thanks for looking though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Jazfossilator said: Well then you have nothing constructive to add. Thanks for looking though. Trying to say that some fossils are beyond recognition. Sorry if that does not help You. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, ynot said: Trying to say that some fossils are beyond recognition. Sorry if that does not help You. I'm sorry if that came off as rude, not my intention. Of course your opinion is valued! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Detailed up-close photos of tops of the columns and the columns themselves might help for giving an ID. Are you able to take photos thru a magnifying lens? Silurian and Cambrian marine rocks are in the area. Possible candidates include: coral, bryozoan and sponge. A member with knowledge of the local fossils might be more helpful. . 1 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 I think magnified is the only way this will be identified, I was thinking Bryozoa as a possibility. Unfortunately I don't have a way to take magnified pictures of good quality, but I will look into options. Thanks for the suggestions! 11 minutes ago, DPS Ammonite said: Detailed up-close photos of tops of the columns and the columns themselves might help for giving an ID. Are you able to take photos thru a magnifying lens? Silurian and Cambrian marine rocks are in the area. Possible candidates include: coral, bryozoan and sponge. A member with knowledge of the local fossils might be more helpful. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 looks like a longitudinal cross section of a horn coral 3 "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, Herb said: looks like a longitudinal cross section of a horn coral I can see that as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Herb said: looks like a longitudinal cross section of a horn coral Horn corals are cone shaped. How does this object fit into a cone? Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Crossed my mind the receptaculitid possibility. 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, abyssunder said: Crossed my mind the receptaculitid possibility. The area does have a lot of material from the Ordovician, thanks for the idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Here is an article about receptaculitids. Note similarity between posted fossil and diagram of inflated hollow receptaculitid. http://woostergeologists.scotblogs.wooster.edu/2017/02/10/wooster’s-fossil-of-the-week-a-receptaculitid-middle-ordovician-of-missouri/ Jazfossilator, look for a geological map of the area to find the names and ages of the local fossil bearing formations. Look for marine units. Then use Google to search for fossils from those formations. For example: fossils from the x formation or receptaculitids (or other organism) from the x formation (or Vermont). Even if you do not find what you are looking for you are guaranteed to learn about the paleontology and geology of the area. 1 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, DPS Ammonite said: Here is an article about receptaculitids. Note similarity between posted fossil and diagram of inflated hollow receptaculitid. http://woostergeologists.scotblogs.wooster.edu/2017/02/10/wooster’s-fossil-of-the-week-a-receptaculitid-middle-ordovician-of-missouri/ Jazfossilator, look for a geological map of the area to find the names and ages of the local fossil bearing formations. Look for marine units. Then use Google to search for fossils from those formations. For example: fossils from the x formation or receptaculitids (or other organism) from the x formation (or Vermont). Even if you do not find what you are looking for you are guaranteed to learn about the paleontology and geology of the area. Thank you! Knowledge is power haha, Vermont has some very old geological history, I think receptaculid is a good possibility though I can't find any examples quite like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 17 hours ago, ynot said: Horn corals are cone shaped. How does this object fit into a cone? If you cut a horn coral at a 45 degree angle you can get an elliptical cross section . Just a possibility "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Herb said: If you cut a horn coral at a 45 degree angle you can get an elliptical cross section . Just a possibility Yes, but not a crescent moon shape, and there is no evidence of septia. The original object is a small piece of the whole. It is thicker at the "center" than at the edge and shows no surface parts exposed. The apparent structure could be biologic or recrystallized. It could fit into many "classes", but there can be no certainty on what it is. All of the suggested IDs are just guesses and any placement, other than shell piece, is an assumption. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, ynot said: Yes, but not a crescent moon shape, and there is no evidence of septia. The original object is a small piece of the whole. It is thicker at the "center" than at the edge and shows no surface parts exposed. The apparent structure could be biologic or recrystallized. It could fit into many "classes", but there can be no certainty on what it is. All of the suggested IDs are just guesses and any placement, other than shell piece, is an assumption. Seems to me even striations can be used as diagnostic, if you look closely enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I was thinking cross section of barnacle, but that may not fit the age of the rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, ynot said: Yes, but not a crescent moon shape, and there is no evidence of septia. The original object is a small piece of the whole. It is thicker at the "center" than at the edge and shows no surface parts exposed. The apparent structure could be biologic or recrystallized. It could fit into many "classes", but there can be no certainty on what it is. All of the suggested IDs are just guesses and any placement, other than shell piece, is an assumption. correct, just guesses "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 without more info it's a snarge shoot. Looks sort of like the Ordovician bryozoa/coral. Tetradium sp. 1 "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Herb said: without more info it's a snarge shoot. Looks sort of like the Ordovician bryozoa/coral. Tetradium sp. I plan to get magnified photos taken, I will post them when I do so everyone can have a look at the structure. Thank you for the suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 Sorry to bring up an old thread, but do these photos shed some light on this piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 In the newly posted pictures I can see a clockwise - counterclockwise intersecting rows pattern, so I think it might be a receptaculitid, something similar to Fisherites. 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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