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miocene gastropods in the south of France


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Those fossil gastropods are beautiful. Certainly worth the effort to find them. Would love to see them cleaned up. Congratulations and thanks for sharing your photo-adventure with us.

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Very nice, thanks for sharing. :)

Are they very soft and fragile or easy to remove from the matrix? 

 

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Beautiful!

“...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin

Happy hunting,

Mason

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1 hour ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

Very nice, thanks for sharing. :)

Are they very soft and fragile or easy to remove from the matrix? 

 

 

Very, very fragile. An other one in matrix

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Very nice gastros! I am glad that you had a great hunt!

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Magnifiques trouvailles!!! Bravo! :ighappy::wub:

Y-avait-il aussi des bivalves dans le coin?  (Translation: were there also bivalves around)

 

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"I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day."

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Beautiful gastropods - I love how they look against the dark matrix :wub:

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On 4/30/2018 at 7:19 PM, caterpillar said:

Yes, a lot but small. But I don't collect gastropods and lamellibranches. For me that was just a fun outing with my friends who are shells specialists.

I think you made a mistake in which ones you mean... You did collect gastropods, as seen in the last picture. (Btw, "Lamellibranchiata" is one of the old names for the Bivalvia class, and no longer used ;) )

 

But it surely must have been a fun outing!!!

Max Derème

 

"I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day."

   - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier

 

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I keep seeing so many good things coming out of France. What is it with France and good fossils? Did they feed the fossil gods gourmet food? :P

Every single fossil you see is a miracle set in stone, and should be treated as such.

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42 minutes ago, MeargleSchmeargl said:

I keep seeing so many good things coming out of France. What is it with France and good fossils? Did they feed the fossil gods gourmet food? :P

:rofl:

I do have to admit that France is as rich in fossils as in its gastronomy!

And lucky for me, France is not too far away :muahaha:

 

I think that one of the reasons that France has so many fossils is because Natural History is a subject that quite a lot of French people are interested in. The fact that it is a rich country allows it to put more money into scientific research, and hereby the science progresses fast. Thanks to this, paleontology becomes more accessible to the public, making more people interested. And therefore amateur collectors regularly prospect to find new hunting locations, so more fossils become accessible, and therefore more people are interested, and new locations/fossils are discovered, etc. It's pretty much a big ripple effect, making more and more people interested and hereby uncovering more and more of the paleontology world. The Netherlands and Belgium, although small countries, also have several known locations, for the exact same reason. On the other hand, poorer countries that aren't able to fund Natural History museums/paleontology courses, won't have many known fossil locations, because only a select few paleontologists will be able to fossil hunt, while the majority of the population won't have access to that science (and will therefore barely be aware of paleontology in general). Therefore new locations will rarely be discovered, and the few fossils found will remain in museum collections. 

Of course, there are many other factors. Some countries are very attached to their religion, and therefore fossils that are 'millions of years old' might go against the religious values of the country. And some countries are very interested in their cultural and scientific heritage, while others are more interested in other aspects of their country. 

Also, there are sometimes laws that prevent fossil hunting or fossil collecting by amateurs. I know that South Africa for one strictly forbids the collection of any fossils found within South-African land (except for beach finds, not exactly sure why). So if the amateurs are forbidden to hunt, then no new fossil locations/fossils will be discovered.

Finally, the geology of the area obviously also plays a big role. It's possible that a country is simply "unlucky" and therefore has little fossils on its territory. 

 

Those are my ideas though, I'm not exactly sure that this is all 100% true. But they seem to make sense to me. Also, there are likely a bunch of other factors that play a role too. 

 

But I believe it's for those reasons mainly that countries like France, Belgium, Netherlands, and also the USA (along with lots of other countries) are very rich in fossils and have a lot available on the market/paleo-society. 

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Max Derème

 

"I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day."

   - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier

 

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Well to be fair the number of fossil-bearing formations has to do with the geological history of the area, not the knowledge or enthusiasm of the inhabitants.  If I could make fossils appear just by knowing about them and enjoying looking for them, the local rocks would be rife with Jurassic ammonites instead of being boring precambrian schist and granite.

 

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1 minute ago, FossilDAWG said:

...instead of being boring precambrian schist and granite.

 

Don

Somewhere, a geologist has been brought to tears. :P:D 

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France is rich for sure , but as well as UK,Germany,Belgium , Spain , Italy , Portugal ..As for your nice comment Max , 

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I think that one of the reasons that France has so many fossils is because Natural History is a subject that quite a lot of French people are interested in

I think unfortunately this has become a thing of the past , due to the same causes that produce the same effects somewhere else  : restrictive laws , very vocal conservationnists that tend to propagate the idea that fossil collecting is a Pro thing , more and more restricted areas , lack of any exposure to the subject in schools etc ... As a consequence , most collectors tend to be of ripe age . Youngers generations (40-) tend to be much less interested and their children also . We are beginning to see the effects also in official education programs as geology is a subject which is becoming a mere option .

 

 

.... and a counter example would be for instance Morocco , which is poor and at the same time as rich as any of the aforementioned european countries 

 

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To be sure, "boring" is in the eyes of the beholder.  As my youngest daughter said to me one time as we pulled over to a roadcut, "Why do you need more trilobites?  You've already got bunches and anyway they all look the same."

 

Don

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Just now, FossilDAWG said:

To be sure, "boring" is in the eyes of the beholder.  As my youngest daughter said to me one time as we pulled over to a roadcut, "Why do you need more trilobites?  You've already got bunches and anyway they all look the same."

 

Don

Absolutely. I was jesting, of course. To a lot of non-fossil people, any long discussion on fossils sees their eyes glaze over. :P 

...How to Philosophize with a Hammer

 

 

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5 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said:

If I could make fossils appear just by knowing about them and enjoying looking for them, the local rocks would be rife with Jurassic ammonites instead of being boring precambrian schist and granite.

And I would have my own Eocene oil-shale lagerstatte!

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>Paleontology is an evolving science.

>May your wonders never cease!

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