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[Jazfossilator]

A couple things for identifying, the first may just be a rock but something about it made me pick it up, I always think wood but then again I’m always wrong.  Any help or suggestions appreciated. Found Myrtle Beach South Carolina, and it bears mentioning that Cretaceous, Pliocene, and Pleistocene fossils are found here.

 

[Tidgy's Dad]

I've seen something like the second one before on the forum. 

Curse my terrible memory. 

Catfish spine, was it? 

[ynot]

Ray mouth plate, really worn.

Fish spine.

[Miocene_Mason]

Fish Tilly bone perhaps.

[caldigger]

The whole idea of having a coin in the picture is for scale. It needs to be right next to the item. Holding the fossil in your hand with a blurry quarter in the background does us no good.

Now we have to calculate the distance from the quarter on the table, the size of your hand and the average wind velocity of a Northwestern Red Throated Sparrow to figure out the size of what you are holding and quite frankly, my head hurts from all this math.

[Jazfossilator]

24 minutes ago, caldigger said:

The whole idea of having a coin in the picture is for scale. It needs to be right next to the item. Holding the fossil in your hand with a blurry quarter in the background does us no good.

Now we have to calculate the distance from the quarter on the table, the size of your hand and the average wind velocity of a Northwestern Red Throated Sparrow to figure out the size of what you are holding and quite frankly, my head hurts from all this math.

The quarter is in the background by coincidence haha, I didn’t think scale mattered to much for these bits, but I appreciate the pointers!

[Miocene_Mason]

40 minutes ago, caldigger said:

velocity of a Northwestern Red Throated Sparrow

I’d guess in the 30 MPH range, topping out at 60

[-AnThOnY-]

First item just looks like a pebble, maybe phosphate.

 

Other one resembles a fish spine

[sixgill pete]

@Jazfossilator

A few tips for getting better ID's.

First, make the object you are trying to get an ID for be the central object of the photo. Not your hand. Put the object on a neutral colored background and photograph it as close up as possible. Then crop your pictures. Using your hand for scale is no good, we don't know how big your hand is. Make sure the photo is well lit and focused.

Second, either use a scale rule (preferably metric; millimeters and centimeters) we have members from all over the world. The U.S. is about the only country that does not use the metric system Coins for scale are no good. A member in Belgium probably has no idea how big a quarter is, and us here has no idea how big a Chinese Yuan is. If you dont have a rule, tell us in the post how big it is. Length, width, height, thickness etc.

Third, give as detailed info as possible as to where it was found. State, County, Country, Province, Parish. Was it in a river, a beach find, a quarry? If you know the geologic info, tell us. If not do not guess, if we have the right info on where it was found, that can be obtained. 

Lastly, don't expect miracles on your items. We are mostly amateurs on here. We can and do make mistakes. If the item is really worn, don't expect an exact Id. But I promise we will do the very best we can, or try to direct you to someone who could possibly ID your item.

 

 

[Jazfossilator]

3 minutes ago, sixgill pete said:

@Jazfossilator

A few tips for getting better ID's.

First, make the object you are trying to get an ID for be the central object of the photo. Not your hand. Put the object on a neutral colored background and photograph it as close up as possible. Then crop your pictures. Using your hand for scale is no good, we don't know how big your hand is. Make sure the photo is well lit and focused.

Second, either use a scale rule (preferably metric; millimeters and centimeters) we have members from all over the world. The U.S. is about the only country that does not use the metric system Coins for scale are no good. A member in Belgium probably has no idea how big a quarter is, and us here has no idea how big a Chinese Yuan is. If you dont have a rule, tell us in the post how big it is. Length, width, height, thickness etc.

Third, give as detailed info as possible as to where it was found. State, County, Country, Province, Parish. Was it in a river, a beach find, a quarry? If you know the geologic info, tell us. If not do not guess, if we have the right info on where it was found, that can be obtained. 

Lastly, don't expect miracles on your items. We are mostly amateurs on here. We can and do make mistakes. If the item is really worn, don't expect an exact Id. But I promise we will do the very best we can, or try to direct you to someone who could possibly ID your item.

 

 

Firstly, I know these pictures aren’t the best I’m struggling with a new phone at the moment and was going for the best lighting available in my room. The quarter as I said was just in the picture by chance, and I did give the Location in my original post along with what ages of fossils can be found there. And finally I don’t expect miracles I just like seeing what people have to say! I’m curious about the things I find and I do my best job with the little knowledge I have to make Identifying possible. I appreciate the pointers anyhow though.

[sixgill pete]

1 minute ago, Jazfossilator said:

Firstly, I know these pictures aren’t the best I’m struggling with a new phone at the moment and was going for the best lighting available in my room. The quarter as I said was just in the picture by chance, and I did give the Location in my original post along with what ages of fossils can be found there. And finally I don’t expect miracles I just like seeing what people have to say! I’m curious about the things I find and I do my best job with the little knowledge I have to make Identifying possible. I appreciate the pointers anyhow though.

My comments were not to belittle you in any way. Just suggestions on how to get good positive ID's. The size of an item always matters. 

 

I looked at your pictures a few times. The first one is really to blury and far away to say anything for sure. But it could be what @ynot suggested. The second item probably is a fish spine, but better pictures could help us be sure. 

[Jazfossilator]

27 minutes ago, sixgill pete said:

My comments were not to belittle you in any way. Just suggestions on how to get good positive ID's. The size of an item always matters. 

 

I looked at your pictures a few times. The first one is really to blury and far away to say anything for sure. But it could be what @ynot suggested. The second item probably is a fish spine, but better pictures could help us be sure. 

I gave it a go, 12mm long and 8mm wide at the widest point

[sixgill pete]

much better pictures. I would say there is no doubt it is a fish spine. Guessing catfish, but there may be to much wear on it to be sure.

[Malone]

Is there any possibility it could be one of the nodules or bumps from a trilobite?

[Malone]

I don't know the correct name 

[Jazfossilator]

12 minutes ago, Malone said:

Is there any possibility it could be one of the nodules or bumps from a trilobite?

I don’t think Myrtle beach has any trilo material, Cretaceous is the oldest period represented in the area unless I’m mistaken

[Malone]

19 minutes ago, Jazfossilator said:

I don’t think Myrtle beach has any trilo material, Cretaceous is the oldest period represented in the area unless I’m mistaken

It was a wid guess. I just saw that trilo on another post and it looked like a possibility. Not much harm done in it I hope. 

[Malone]

This article says it's mostly Cretaceous. I thought it might help you @Jazfossilator with future endeavors. I am learning something everyday. I didn't know trilos were not Cretaceous. I haven't come close to knowing the time periods. Sorry if it's a distraction from the diagnostic process. 

[Jazfossilator]

9 hours ago, Malone said:

It was a wid guess. I just saw that trilo on another post and it looked like a possibility. Not much harm done in it I hope. 

No harm at all! I appreciate people responding, and i can see how it would look that way thanks for posting that article! Has some good info

[Pemphix]

Not trilo, fossil has bone-structure.

Fish is likelymost.