Troodon Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 A number of vertebrae are up for sale from the Kem Kem beds. I would recommend if you have interest in any, please post them here for comment like some of you already have. I've commented on a few. Spinosaurs dorsal vertebra being offered for sale. Please exercise caution on this specimen. It has tons of fill and the centrum shape looks off. Hard to determine if this is a composite or from the same vertebra. Dorsal vertebra should look like this in lateral view. A Carcharodontosaurus centrum being offered for sale. Not sure one can identify this to any specific Dinosaur or Reptile. A Spinosaur caudal vertebra being offered for sale. Not sure what this is, not Spinosaurus. The centrum might be one but not the spines, look like crock. Spines may be composited Two Caudal vertebrae from a Sauropod are being offered. Unfortunately the one on the left is Crocodilian and the one on the right might also be one or theropod, needs cleaning up. Another similar group of Verts is being offered same comments. Neural spines like the one below typically are Croc. Okay not a vert but not dinosaurian as offered. Reptlian 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Troodon said: Spinosaurs dorsal vertebra being offered for sale. Please exercise caution on this specimen. It has tons of fill and the centrum shape looks off. Hard to determine if this is a composite or from the same vertebra. I wonder if the entire right-side is just shaped sand. I have one like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 37 minutes ago, Aurelius said: I wonder if the entire right-side is just shaped sand. I have one like that. Anything is possible when you have that much filler. No idea what Sigilmassasaurus distal dorsal verts look like. This is my Dorsal And Stromers 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flx Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 What do you think of the premaxilla offered in the same batch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Flx said: What do you think of the premaxilla offered in the same batch? I think its real. The unerupted teeth look okay but like anything from that region until you hold it and examine it closely who knows if its been altered. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talon22 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Thanks Troodon, i was hoping a thread like this was posted since there are a lot of vertebra's currently being offered. Your insight is invaluable :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laditz Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 So, who of you bought that premaxilla for a mere 3.250 dollars? I have absolutely no idea what these things normally go for (don't see them often of course), but this suprised me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Haha I tried, but didn't get it. I've seen even very fragmentary Spinosaur jaw remains go for well over a thousand dollars. So this price didn't surprise me much to be honest. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flx Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Wasn't me. I have a spino jaw in my collection (in similar price range) and already spent most of my budget on american fossils this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laditz Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Hi all, i have a follow-up question on the seller of the material above. Today on our favourite auction website i noticed that some of the items, that i know for sure i saw being sold in auction last week, have been put up for auction again.. Apparently by the same seller, but with a slightly different account name (which also has good feedback). I did buy some of the stuff he sold earlier (just not any of the items relisted) and that got delivered just fine. Anyone by any chance know what's up? Before i bid on any new items on this account.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I do see some of the same fossils up for sale. Not the ones I bought though. I suspect only the ones that didn't sell were relisted again. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laditz Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Always thought when items were bid on and sold, the deal was done.. but maybe buyers backed out or something went wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 Well check out what is called shill bidding... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masp Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Glad I came across this thread ... I bought two fossils from the same seller that I’d like your opinion on...The vert was sold as Dromaeosaur and the the second fossil as a sauropod caudel. @Troodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masp Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 @Troodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masp Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 They weren’t expensive so I figured , why not. Nothing I’m not going to be too disappointed with if they’re ID’d wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Dromaeosaur is not known from the Kem Kem although we believe dromaeosaurids do exist. Not sure what that vertebra is does not fit dromaeosaurids that I'm familiar with. May be croc and leaning against dinosaurian. Your other vertebra appears to be from a crocodile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masp Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 The vert the seller claims is dromaeosaur is from Ifezouane formation , taouz , South Morocco. Does that change anything? @Troodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Most of the Dinosaur material from the Kem Kem beds is from the Ifezouane formation. Dromaeosaurus is a North American species. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Here is some backround on the Kem Kem Beds @Masp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masp Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Thank you @Troodon I’ll check this out now. So annoying how risky it always is buying anything out of that place...Just goes to show even when someone has 100% positive feedback, it doesn’t mean things are labeled right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, Masp said: Thank you @Troodon I’ll check this out now. So annoying how risky it always is buying anything out of that place...Just goes to show even when someone has 100% positive feedback, it doesn’t mean things are labeled right. Feedbacks are worthless when the collectors receiving the material do not realize the ID's are incorrect and when they do there is no way to change it. Paleontologists know very little about the Kem Kem so sellers and collectors are even less informed. My suggestion is to post your interests here, before you buy and we can try to give you our assesment. Lots of very nice material is being made available and you do not want to turn away from it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 18 hours ago, Troodon said: Most of the Dinosaur material from the Kem Kem beds is from the Ifezouane formation. Dromaeosaurus is a North American species. Entirely correct. But the word Dromaeosaur is also sometimes used as a common name for Dromaeosaurids. And Dromaeosaurids do seem to be present in the Kem Kem beds. But none have been described as of yet. I'd say that that last vertebra looks like it could be croc caudal. 2 Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masp Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 @LordTrilobite understandable. How about the small alleged dromaeosaurid vert? Does it look theropod to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masp Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I was considering buying these below. How does it look to you guys, safe or not? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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