Wrangellian Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, Nimravis said: Sorry, but not to me- but seeing that it is soft bodied, you have to say that it is great- Exactly! You could send it to me if you don't think much of it and are not willing to try breaking off that piece that still covers the worm! BTW what did you use to clean the white stuff off, vinegar? You may have already said but I don't know how far back I would have to look for that info.. Is it not preserved well enough to determine the ID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wrangellian said: Exactly! You could send it to me if you don't think much of it and are not willing to try breaking off that piece that still covers the worm! BTW what did you use to clean the white stuff off, vinegar? You may have already said but I don't know how far back I would have to look for that info.. Is it not preserved well enough to determine the ID? I will not try to break that piece off and that is why I posted a pic of the entire concretion put back together to show how it broke. This one opened real easy and I feel that the tail end might bend downwards and a strike if the hammer would destroy it, and believe me, I mess up a lot of worms that I do not take pics of and just toss because of the damage- that is the proble using a hammer. As far as ID, I took a quick look at it when I opened it and I would say that it is the "Plain Worm" Astreptoscolex anasillosus. As far as cleaning, when I clean flora I will occasionally use vinegar, but when it comes to fauna, and if I decide to try and clean it, like this worm, I use a soft bristle tooth brush and water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stats Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 11:35 PM, jdp said: I wonder if this might be a somewhat decayed Tullimonstrum I was wondering this too. Or a jelly? Cheers, Rich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stats Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 8:10 PM, Nimravis said: Here is something odd that was inside this concretion and I have never seen this type of inclusion, I believe that the fossil portion is coprolite, though I do not recognize the white pieces. I've seen something similar described as eggs. It could be mineralization. Are they flat or do they have some relief? Cheers, Rich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, stats said: I've seen something similar described as eggs. It could be mineralization. Are they flat or do they have some relief? Rich that is what I thought they looked like, but unlike you, I have never seen anything like them before. They do not have any relief, just flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCFossils Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Another interesting piece! i do not think these are eggs. They might be insect castings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 9 hours ago, stats said: I've seen something similar described as eggs. It could be mineralization. Are they flat or do they have some relief? Cheers, Rich Rich here are a couple examples of concretions in my collection of Mazonova helmichus, the above piece looks totally different. @RCFossils what do you think? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, RCFossils said: Another interesting piece! i do not think these are eggs. They might be insect castings. LOL- You must have been replying as I was typing and adding you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stats Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, Nimravis said: Rich here are a couple examples of concretions in my collection of Mazonova helmichus, the above piece looks totally different. @RCFossils what do you think? This is what I've seen previously. Agreed probably not eggs. Cheers, Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, RCFossils said: They might be insect castings. I can agree with that as a possibility. In these next 2 nodules, the first may also be castings (random arrangement but basically in a line) however the second could be a clutch of amphibian eggs. I don't see how one could ever know for sure. "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, Innocentx said: I can agree with that as a possibility. In these next 2 nodules, the first may also be castings (random arrangement but basically in a line) however the second could be a clutch of amphibian eggs. I don't see how one could ever know for sure. The last two pics are properly identified. It is the the other one that I have never run across it in the thousands of concretions I have opened over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nimravis said: The last two pics are properly identified. I missed that sorry. Those are pretty cool. 1 "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 The only thing I've seen that looks similar to these rod shaped inclusions are external parasitic wasp larvae which spin a cocoon for protection. "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Innocentx said: The only thing I've seen that looks similar to these rod shaped inclusions are external parasitic wasp larvae which spin a cocoon for protection. I agree and I have wasp larva from the Oligocene of Wyoming. I collected it about 20 years ago while collecting with a Paleontologist from Douglas, Wyoming. The pieces from there are loose and a lot larger, but the same shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Nimravis said: I agree and I have wasp larva from the Oligocene of Wyoming. I collected it about 20 years ago while collecting with a Paleontologist from Douglas, Wyoming. The pieces from there are loose and a lot larger, but the same shape. So such things can be fossilized. That's very interesting! "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Innocentx said: So such things can be fossilized. That's very interesting! Here is one in matrix and two that are loose. Again, they came from the Badlands of Douglas, Wyoming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Wow! Yes they are a lot larger. Thanks for posting these!! "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 8:10 PM, Nimravis said: Lori, here are a couple pieces that opened today, take a look and let me know if you want them. Defininately! I would love anything like that. Thank you! 1 Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 8:10 PM, Nimravis said: Here is something odd that was inside this concretion and I have never seen this type of inclusion, I believe that the fossil portion is coprolite, though I do not recognize the white pieces. Is this terrestrial or aquatic? Since they are next to a coprolite, could they be some sort of larvae? Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 37 minutes ago, GeschWhat said: Is this terrestrial or aquatic? Since they are next to a coprolite, could they be some sort of larvae? That is what I am currently trying to find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 After going to Dave's Rock Shop today I was able to get in about an hours worth of opening concretions from Pit 4 (Shadow Lakes), nothing special was found today, here are a couple pieces of flora that I found. Pecopteris- Neuropteris- Cyclopteris- Cordaites- Bark- 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Although I did not find anything special today, the vast majority of concretions that I opened this evening contained fossils- These concretions were collected from Pit 4 (Shadow Lakes). Macroneuropteris- Pecopteris- Bark- Bark with Neuropteris- Lycopod Leaves- Coprolite- 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 It has been a few days since I was able to go through any buckets. Today I started on a bucket that I collected back in 1991 from Pit 11. When collecting at Pit 11, I would pick up any type of concretion that I came across. Many times I will pick up concretions that were cracked open by other collectors, some of the concretions would contain nice fossils, other times I find more common fossils such as Essexella asherae Jellyfish- here are some examples that we in this bucket. Here is an example of a nice fossil that was opened by another collector, but did not think the fossil was anything special and just left it. So far I only have halve, the other halve may still be in the bucket. Millipede, I believe Euphoberia sp. Achistrum sp. Sea Cucumber Mazonomya mazonensis Bivalve- Sedgwickia sp. Bivalve- Poorly preserved worm- Bark- 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 11:14 PM, Nimravis said: I agree, the smallest concretions sometimes have some great things. Me too. This little leaf is very beautiful. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 2:04 AM, Nimravis said: I spent a good part of the day cracking concretions and what has been the case with the last couple days, Here are pics of some other finds. Here is a hash plate that contains the subsurface of the non vascular plant Taeniophyllum latifolium (Checkerboard Sections). I never keep these pieces, but decided that I should have at least one example. Hopefully I will find something Sexy in the next couple days- I don't care if it is fauna or flora. I actually rather like these. Non-vascular plants are of great interest to me. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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