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Tooth or Concretion


JeremyD

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Information: Squares in the background are 1/2 CM. (object is roughly 2.25X1.25X0.5 CM)  (length-width-thickness)

Unfortunately I don't think location information will be much use here but: Found in western Montana (United States)(near Great Falls) in a graveled driveway. No idea where it might be from, or if it was already here before the driveway.

I'd be more than happy to provide more pictures/angles if it'll help. My little auto-adjusting light was being extremely temperamental with these pictures for some reason.. they are a fair bit darker than the object actually appears in-hand. The inner "tooth" is nearly pure black.

I thought when I first picked it up that it was a tooth of some sort.. but the more I look at it, the more I'm thinking some sort of concretion. I don't claim to have any experience whatsoever with fossils, so I could easily be wildly wrong. Any of you more experienced folks recognize it?

 

As a side note, if it does turn out something other than a normal rock, would I want to try to remove it from the other material? Any recommendations on doing so safely?

 

 

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We will need much better and more in focus pictures. 

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These any better? I am having a heck of a time trying to get my microscope to focus on this thing. Works great on coins.. not so much here. Unfortunately it is the only camera I have, so I might be under-equipped for this.

 

 

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Your best shots will most likely be taken in bright sunlight. I have to take mine outside to take pictures sometimes. Indoor lighting can be problematic at times.

I don’t think you need a microscope to photograph it. Just try to fill up the shot with the object when you take the pic.

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These are probably about as good as it is getting. Took these outside (thanks!) with a different camera. If these aren't good enough I will probably just take it to one of the colleges. Appreciating the patience and help folks :)

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Take the pics from further away to get good focus, then crop the pictures.

The very first picture you posted reminds me of a Pycnodontiforme  fish tooth. The rest of the pics do not. So I will say I am not sure at this point.

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behind the trailer, my desert
Them red clay piles are heaven on earth
I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt

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The pictures were taken from about three feet away and then cropped to exclude 80% or so. How far away are you thinking? In any event I'll have to spend a day charging the camera before I make another attempt at it.

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Although I can't make out all that much from those photos, I'd be inclined to say that this is not a tooth. However, it may be something fossiliferous which is mineralized.

 

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Sure it might look like an eroded whale ear bone , but I can't rule out the " indian paint pot" .

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