belemniten Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Last week I was on holiday in the Netherlands and found some nice things, especially shark teeth ! I was at the area of Antwerp, in Cadzand, in Vlissingen and at the Zandmotor near Den Haag. In this topic I want to show my finds from my visit at the Zandmotor. The Zandmotor is artificial peninsula, constructed as part of the Dutch coastal defense system. The sand originates from about 10 kilometers offshore, and contains bones of various land mammals from the Quaternary period. On my visit I found some bone fragments, two shark teeth and some more things .... Here are two pictures of the found location: Firstly I want to show my best bone from there. Its an 4 cm long Phalanx and I have no idea from which animal it comes from. I hoped that I would find some more bones and maybe even a mammal tooth but maybe next time Then secondly I was very happy about my two shark teeth I found because they seem to be very rare there. Although they are quite worn The first one is 3 cm long: And the second one is 2 cm long and damaged on the other side: Another very common find there are fish vertebrae. The ones I found: They are not big (the biggest one is 2.5 cm long) Furthermore I found a beautiful tooth plate (?) of a fish: (3.6 cm long) And last but not least two Pectenids: Some more reports will follow (maybe in other threads...) Hope you enjoyed my pictures and thanks for viewing !!! 2 Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Very cool finds, and great pictures Sebastian! The shark teeth are indeed quite rare at the Zandmotor (definitely much more than at other locations), so finding two teeth, although incomplete, is still rather cool. That mouth plate is really cool. Haven't found one like that yet on the Zandmotor. In the last picture, the scallop on the right is an Eemian (Pleistocene; 120'000 yo) shell of the Mimachlamys varia. The one on the left is insanely cool! I've never seen such a fantastic scallop come out of the Zandmotor. I am super envious! (I'll try and find out what species it is tomorrow) I gotta say you did very well for a first time on the Zandmotor! Definitely better than my first time. Did you pick up any more fossil shells? Thanks for sharing this nice report. Best regards, Max 2 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Are you sure it is a fish tooth plate ? I think it could be an osseous plate of reptile. Coco 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 40 minutes ago, Max-fossils said: Very cool finds, and great pictures Sebastian! The shark teeth are indeed quite rare at the Zandmotor (definitely much more than at other locations), so finding two teeth, although incomplete, is still rather cool. That mouth plate is really cool. Haven't found one like that yet on the Zandmotor. In the last picture, the scallop on the right is an Eemian (Pleistocene; 120'000 yo) shell of the Mimachlamys varia. I gotta say you did very well for a first time on the Zandmotor! Definitely better than my first time. Thanks for sharing this nice report. Best regards, Max Thank you very much Max Also for the ID help !! 40 minutes ago, Max-fossils said: The one on the left is insanely cool! I've never seen such a fantastic scallop come out of the Zandmotor. I am super envious! (I'll try and find out what species it is tomorrow) Thanks ! I found similar scallops in Maasvlakte last year. If you are interested in them I can send you some pictures ! 40 minutes ago, Max-fossils said: Did you pick up any more fossil shells? No not really 15 minutes ago, Coco said: Are you sure it is a fish tooth plate ? I think it could be an osseous plate of reptile. Coco No I am not sure ! Thanks for the idea.... I will take a picture from the other side of the item tomorrow. Maybe this will help. 1 Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 The ID for the shell on the left is Flexopecten flexosus. That’s a rare species, so congrats on the cool find! IPFOTM-worthy in my opinion 2 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, belemniten said: Thanks ! I found similar scallops in Maasvlakte last year. If you are interested in them I can send you some pictures ! I’d love to see that Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Sounds like a good day collecting. @Harry Pristis can help id the toe bone. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Coco said: Are you sure it is a fish tooth plate ? I think it could be an osseous plate of reptile. Coco Yeah that’s an osteoderm of a Croc, Gator, or Sturgeon. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I agree with Coco, that's not a mouth plate, looks like a reptilian osteoderm to me. Lovely finds, the bivalves are wonderful and the phalanx very interesting. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 17 hours ago, Max-fossils said: The ID for the shell on the left is Flexopecten flexosus. That’s a rare species, so congrats on the cool find! IPFOTM-worthy in my opinion Thanks for the ID Great that I found something rare !! 16 hours ago, ynot said: Sounds like a good day collecting. @Harry Pristis can help id the toe bone. Thanks Tony ! Hopefully he has an idea. 16 hours ago, WhodamanHD said: Yeah that’s an osteoderm of a Croc, Gator, or Sturgeon. Thanks for the ID ! 15 hours ago, Tidgy's Dad said: I agree with Coco, that's not a mouth plate, looks like a reptilian osteoderm to me. Lovely finds, the bivalves are wonderful and the phalanx very interesting. Thanks for the kind words Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy B Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Very nice haul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Andy B said: Very nice haul! Thanks Andy Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Nice,Seb!Love those pectinids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I don't think that any reptile fossils are to be found in the Zandmotor. Reptiles are pretty much always found in warm places; yet the vertebrate fossils from this location are all from megafaunal Pleistocene mammals from the last Ice Age, about 40'000 years old. And at the time, I think that it was WAAYYY to cold for any reptile to be scurrying around. So I think that sturgeon is a much better guess for that osteoderm. 1 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 30.5.2018 at 8:53 AM, doushantuo said: Nice,Seb!Love those pectinids! Thanks Ben I also like them ! Here are some of my others: They are mostly from the Massvlakte near Rotterdam. Max was so nice to determine them for me ! His knowledge about bivalves is really awesome On 30.5.2018 at 6:20 PM, Max-fossils said: I don't think that any reptile fossils are to be found in the Zandmotor. Reptiles are pretty much always found in warm places; yet the vertebrate fossils from this location are all from megafaunal Pleistocene mammals from the last Ice Age, about 40'000 years old. And at the time, I think that it was WAAYYY to cold for any reptile to be scurrying around. So I think that sturgeon is a much better guess for that osteoderm. Thanks for the ID help ! I will sort it as an osteoderm of a sturgeon. Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 REALLY REALLY nice molluscan group,Seb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, doushantuo said: REALLY REALLY nice molluscan group,Seb Thanks Ben Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 6/3/2018 at 8:45 AM, belemniten said: Max was so nice to determine them for me ! His knowledge about bivalves is really awesome Haha thank you for the nice compliment. I still have much to learn though! I was glad to help. Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil-Hound Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 @belemniten very nice. Thanks for sharing. Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Max-fossils said: Haha thank you for the nice compliment. I still have much to learn though! I was glad to help. 19 minutes ago, Fossil-Hound said: @belemniten very nice. Thanks for sharing. Thank you ! Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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