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Unknown Cretaceous tooth


Mtskinner

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This is a cool looking little guy I found this past weekend in South Alabama. The area found was a marine environment within the Blufftown formation. The tooth is 1/2” long, 5/16” wide, and has an flattened oval shape to it. The enamel Is identical to a few of the plesiosaur teeth I have from this area but the flattened shape is throwing me off. The tooth is smooth all the way around with no carinae. Any thoughts or comments would be very much appreciated! 

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4 hours ago, Al Dente said:

Maybe a fish tooth. Are Xiphactinus found at this site?

Yes sir, I actually found 11 Xiphactinus vetus teeth on this same trip. This one isn’t close to any that I’ve found thus far though, and that’s why I posted it. It’s short and stubby whereas the rest that we find are long and skinny. Also, I would say that 99% of the Xiphactinus teeth we do find have faceted edges and carinae on at least one edge. 

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I would actually lean towards Plesiosaur tooth - they do tend to get flattened at the tip and Xiphactinus teeth have carinae.  Maybe yours is a tip?

 

I think you guys have Xiphactinus Vetus like we do right? It is actually defined as having two cutting edges in the New Jersey fossil guides. 

 

 

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I'd say its growth cracks are too large for it to be a Xiphactinus. I have the feeling it is either a Croc or Mosasaur tooth with a variation.

“You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal

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The tooth doesn’t appear to be broken to me as it has a concaved bottom where the root would’ve attached.

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5 hours ago, Mtskinner said:

Yes sir, I actually found 11 Xiphactinus vetus teeth on this same trip. This one isn’t close to any that I’ve found thus far though, and that’s why I posted it. It’s short and stubby whereas the rest that we find are long and skinny. Also, I would say that 99% of the Xiphactinus teeth we do find have faceted edges and carinae on at least one edge. 

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Nice teeth. I agree that Xiphactinus vetus have carinae and facets. I was wondering if the tooth you posted was X. audax which is round (lacks carinae) and does not have facets. I don't have any X. audax teeth to use as a comparison. Not sure if X. audax have been found in your region.

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1 hour ago, Al Dente said:

Nice teeth. I agree that Xiphactinus vetus have carinae and facets. I was wondering if the tooth you posted was X. audax which is round (lacks carinae) and does not have facets. I don't have any X. audax teeth to use as a comparison. Not sure if X. audax have been found in your region.

I have two decent teeth from X. audax...this pic is a comparison of the two species side by side. The one on the left is my better example of X. audax. 

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The growth cracks are definitely larger that the X. audax tooth but other than that I can see where the tooth in question matches up pretty well if it’s just a broken tip. 

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I also think its just the tip of a plesiosaur tooth or maybe mosasaur.  I definitely don't think its Xiphactinus.   

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10 hours ago, josephstrizhak said:

I'd say its growth cracks are too large for it to be a Xiphactinus. I have the feeling it is either a Croc or Mosasaur tooth with a variation.

 

It actually seems to have two very faint carinae towards the tip based off of your occlusal view, so that rules out X. audax. X. vetus has facets unlike this tooth. Most plesiosaur teeth don't have cutting edges and aren't this flat at the tip, so this can't be plesiosaur. It is either Croc or Mosasaur, but I would say it is Mosasaur.

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“You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one.” ― Mikhail Tal

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Here a few more pics of the areas in question...the concave base I was discussing earlier (is it broken or no???) and the tip that hopefully shows it doesn’t have any carinae. 

My gut feeling is that it’s simply plesiosaur...

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11 hours ago, Mtskinner said:

I have two decent teeth from X. audax...this pic is a comparison of the two species side by side. The one on the left is my better example of X. audax. 

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That's a nice comparison photo of the two species.

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