Dretsend Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Been struggling to identifiy this for a few months now...found it on a marine Miocene area, but also land mammals have been found around... I tried searching ulnas, hummerus, femurs...of all the animals I could think of...but either it is a simple chunk of rock or I am missing something... The specimen is around 1p inches long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 The other side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 The one end does appear socket-like. If you could be more specific about location and include a ruler or coin or other object to give a sense of size, that would help. Also, If you would take a well focused shot of the area circled, that might help determine whether it's bone or not. "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Thanks Innocentx! I will tomorrow, silly me, never thought of including a ruler in the pic...will borrow one from the girls the area you circled was filled with mud, I cleaned it...I will take more pics and some close-ups 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ynot Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Dretsend said: I did my best... Pictures are real good! I can not help with ID though. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Despite a "boney" aspect, I don't think it is actually a bone. I think it is a concretion, likely formed around a burrow (trace fossil). Also, there is a bit of fossil solitary coral incorporated into the rock, which would not occur if it were a bone. Don 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, ynot said: Pictures are real good! I can not help with ID though. Thanks ynot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said: Despite a "boney" aspect, I don't think it is actually a bone. I think it is a concretion, likely formed around a burrow (trace fossil). Also, there is a bit of fossil solitary coral incorporated into the rock, which would not occur if it were a bone. Don Thanks to you too Dawg, the area is known for marine Miocene concretions indeed, but this rock is uniquely shaped, the rest of rocks in the area have unidentifiable corals and are solid chunks, none would break in such a shape if they were to break. The curves really feel boney-like in your hand, and fossil mammals have also been found in the area...that is why I thought it could be a bone, despite it does not have the typical brownish enamel. It is weird that there are quarz intrussions around the indentation Innocentix marked, as well as on the other point where they seem to be forming a radial shape (4th pic, 5th post) what could they be due to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dretsend said: the other point where they seem to be forming a radial shape That is the coral that He was referring too. I agree with the concretion ID. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, ynot said: That is the coral that He was referring too. I agree with the concretion ID. I might have one of the best specimens in your favourite thread on TFF, then... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, ynot said: That is the coral that He was referring too. I agree with the concretion ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Dretsend said: I might have one of the best specimens in your favourite thread on TFF, then... Feel free to add it. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 St. Cugat, Catalonia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Another rock from the same area, this I would have said is a coral....but no idea what kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, Dretsend said: Another rock from the same area, this I would have said is a coral....but no idea what kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Plax said: St. Cugat, Catalonia? Yes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FossilDAWG Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 That other specimen is an oyster. You can see the large muscle scar in the 2nd photo. Don 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Thanks again Don, it makes sense with all those layers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 The whole rock looks like a coquina. Lots of shell bits in there. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dretsend Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 These are close ups from the first rock...one can see some flower-like formations around 4mm in diameter...any hints? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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