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JohnBrewer

It’s Father’s Day in the U.K. soon and I’ve been asked by one of my older daughters what I would like and I’ve opted for a new estwing. Shall I go pointy or chisel? I hunt in a variety of places both errr rock hard to soft shale. My existing hammer is chisel but I’ve never really used that end. My current hammer won’t be carried with a the hammer. Weight in the bag will be used for fossils not equipment!

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Fossildude19

I used the chisel end for years. Didn't know what I was missing until I got some pointed end ones.

They are what I use almost exclusively now. 

And get a hammer holster. No need for having the hammer in your bag. ;) 

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TqB

I've never had a need for a pointy end and don't usually need a chisel end either. My main kit is an Estwing 2lb club hammer with various chisels (mostly small) and bolsters to suit whatever I'm likely to come across. 

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TqB
4 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

I used the chisel end for years. Didn't know what I was missing until I got some pointed end ones.

They are what I use almost exclusively now. 

And get a hammer holster. No need for having the hammer in your bag. ;) 

 

What am I missing? :D What sorts of rock are you usually hitting? (I've got a holster but it pulls my trousers down... :blush:)

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Bobby Rico

I am a chisel man myself too . :)

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Xiphactinus

I'll second Fossildude's comment about the holster. I prefer the style below. I found my hammer kept falling out of the top of one like Fossildude's.  As far as pick vs. chisel....I have one of each. If you are digging or working in soft rock like chalk, the pick end is perfect. If you are working in sheety rock like shale and splitting layers, then the chisel end is best.

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Auspex
9 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

I used the chisel end for years. Didn't know what I was missing until I got some pointed end ones.

They are what I use almost exclusively now. 

And get a hammer holster. No need for having the hammer in your bag. ;)

Ditto, on all.

If you need a chisel (it's mostly used when it is important to place the blow accurately), bring a chisel. The pick-end head is quite versatile for all other uses.

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JohnBrewer

The shale I hit is very soft not like the fish shale you open @Fossildude19 

 

Cant carry two as the chisel one has been promised....

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Fossildude19
20 minutes ago, TqB said:

I've never had a need for a pointy end and don't usually need a chisel end either. My main kit is an Estwing 2lb club hammer with various chisels (mostly small) and bolsters to suit whatever I'm likely to come across. 

A sledge/crack hammer will definitely strain your belt and britches. :P 

 

I am using mine for shales, mudstones, and soft limestones. 

If I encounter harder dolostone or limestone, I have the crack hammer and chisels. ;) 

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Ludwigia

I use both, depending on the type of outcrop. Come on it's only a couple of pounds more if you take both. Depends on what kind of damage you want to do on what kind of rock. I'd say you must actually know best yourself by now.

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TqB
8 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

A sledge/crack hammer will definitely strain your belt and britches. :P 

 

I am using mine for shales, mudstones, and soft limestones. 

If I encounter harder dolostone or limestone, I have the crack hammer and chisels. ;) 

Soft limestone is a luxury I rarely encounter. :D 

I can see I'll have to get one for mudstones though. B)

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Auspex
1 minute ago, Ludwigia said:

Depends on what kind of damage you want to do...

...to your back.

^_^

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WhodamanHD
46 minutes ago, Auspex said:

Ditto, on all.

If you need a chisel (it's mostly used when it is important to place the blow accurately), bring a chisel. The pick-end head is quite versatile for all other uses.

I second that. I have a pick-end and chisels and they work like a charm. Pointy end is Extremely useful.

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Kane

FWIW, I've not had much use for a broad-ended chisel, if only because the rock I usually work is tough and does not always have apparent bedding planes. I actually use a 5 lb sledge with wedge point to tease out the planes, and then use a pointy chisel to concentrate force rather than distribute it. 

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caldigger

Alright John, we've established you need a utility belt like Batman to carry all needed tools, that way there is more room in the bag for finds. 

I have both kinds of hammers and have never used the chisel end. Pointy end only and I wear that to a dull nub often.

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Phevo
18 hours ago, Ludwigia said:

I use both, depending on the type of outcrop. Come on it's only a couple of pounds more if you take both. Depends on what kind of damage you want to do on what kind of rock. I'd say you must actually know best yourself by now.

 

 

I second this

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Wrangellian
On 6/7/2018 at 3:36 PM, caldigger said:

Alright John, we've established you need a utility belt like Batman to carry all needed tools, that way there is more room in the bag for finds. 

I have both kinds of hammers and have never used the chisel end. Pointy end only and I wear that to a dull nub often.

Wow.. You've either got a lot of hard rock to work on (minerals/lapidary also?) or you do a helluva lot of fossiling! I've never worn the tip of any rock hammer down that far in my life. Guess I could get out more...

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JohnBrewer

Thank you all. Pointy has been ordered :) 

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