2thdoc Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 What all do I have here? Anything in particular catch anyone’s eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 It would help Us to help You if You reduced the number of pieces in one picture. When You have so many pieces in one picture it is hard to make reference or see what is there. Also if You are posting multiple teeth in one thread please number them. I do see several genus of shark teeth including megalodon. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphactinus Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Wow! You had a great day!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 That image would make a great alternative to the more traditional leopard spot pattern if there are any designers on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Nice haul! Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Very nice haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazfossilator Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Nice teeth!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Miocene_Mason Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Epic haul, a few things you have include but are not limited to: Some nice megs Carcharodon hastalis (a few) some hemipristises an angustidens a few Physogaleus contortuses various Carcharhinids a sand tiger or two two shark vertebrae, can’t ID further without side views. I wish I came back with that many Lamnids! “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeschWhat Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Looks like you had a really good day! I don't know if this would help, but you can use the number above the tooth to indicate which ones you would like to see in more detail. Lori www.areallycrappystory.com/fossils www.facebook.com/fossilpoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Is #17 a tooth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrophyseter Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Using @GeschWhat's markings, here's my mile-long list of the possible IDs. Please note that some IDs, especially the smaller teeth, may be wrong. This took me over an hour to do. Note: Carcharocles and Cosmopolitodus are disputed genera, with other genus names being argued for being Otodus and Carcharodon respectively. 1. Carcharocles megalodon 2. Carcharocles megalodon 3. Carcharocles angustidens 4. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 5. Hemiprisits serra? 6. Hemipristis serra 7. Carcharocles megalodon 8. Physogaleus contortus (posterior) 9. Carcharodon carcharias 10. Carcharocles megalodon 11. ? 12. Carcharodon carcharias 13. Carcharocles megalodon 14. Fraglodon indetus 15. Alopias sp. 16. Sphyrna? 17. Fraglodon indetus 18. Physogaleus contortus 19. Carcharocles angustidens 20. Fraglodon indetus 21. Hemipristis serra 22. Carcharhinus sp. 23. Physogaleus contortus 24. ? 25. Carcharocles angustidens 26. Isurus oxyrinchus 27. Carcharocles angustidens 28. Hemipristis serra 29. ? 30. Cetorhinus maximus? 31. Carcharocles megalodon 32. Hemipristis serra 33. Isurus oxyrinchus 34. Carcharias? 35. Isurus desori? 36. Carcharocles megalodon 37. Alopias sp. 38. Carcharocles angustidens 39. Carcharocles megalodon 40. ? 41. Galeocerdo curvier 42. Hemipristis serra 43. Hemipristis serra 44. Carcharocles megalodon 45. Galeocerdo? 46. Carcharocles angustidens 47. Carcharocles megalodon 48. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 49. Carcharocles angustidens? 50. Carcharodon carcharias 51. Negaprion? 52. Carcharocles megalodon 53. Carcharhinus? 54. Carcharocles megalodon 55. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 56. Carcharias sp. 57. Fraglodon indetus 58. Carcharias sp. 59. ? 60. Negaprion? 61. Physogaleus contortus 62. Fraglodon indetus 63. Negaprion? 64. Carcharhinus sp. 65. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 66. Carcharocles megalodon 67. Carcharocles angustidens 68. Carcharhinus? 69. Carcharocles megalodon 70. Carcharocles megalodon 71. Hemipristis serra? 72. Fraglodon indetus 73. Hemipristis serra 74. Alopias sp. 75. Carcharocles megalodon 76. Hemipristis serra 77. Hemipristis serra 78. Carcarhinus leucas 79. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 80. Hemipristis serra 81. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 82. Carcharocles megalodon 83. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 84. Alopias? 85. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 86. Physogaleus contortus 87. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 88. Fraglodon indetus 89. Rhizoprionodon? 90. Fraglodon indetus 91. Hemipristis serra 92. Carcharocles megalodon 93. Carcharocles megalodon 94. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 95. Negaprion? 96. Alopias? 97. Isurus desori 98. Carcharhinus sp. 99. Physogaleus contortus 100. Hemipristis serra 101. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 102. Fraglodon indetus 103. Physogaleus contortus 104. Fraglodon indetus 105. Fraglodon indetus 106. Hemipristis serra 107. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 108. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 109. Alopias? 110. ? 111. Carcharodon carcharias 112. Carcharias? 113. Carcharocles megalodon 114. Carcharias? 115. Isurus oxyrinchus 116. Galeocerdo sp. 117. Hemipristis serra 118. Carcharias sp. 119. ? 120. Galeorhinus? 121. ? 122. Rhincodon typus? 123. Negaprion? 124. Fraglodon indetus 125. Sphyrna? 126. Rhincodon typus? 127. Hemipristis serra 128. Sphyrna? 129. Sphyrna sp. 130. Cosmopolitodus hastalis? (posterior) 131. Cetorhinus maximus 132. Galeocerdo sp. /end list If you're a fossil nut from Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Redondo Beach, or Torrance, feel free to shoot me a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Just now, Macrophyseter said: Using @GeschWhat's markings, here's my mile-long list of the possible IDs. Please note that some IDs, especially the smaller teeth, may be wrong. This took me over an hour to do. 1. Carcharocles megalodon 2. Carcharocles megalodon 3. Carcharocles angustidens 4. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 5. Hemiprisits serra? 6. Hemipristis serra 7. Carcharocles megalodon 8. Physogaleus contortus (posterior) 9. Carcharodon carcharias 10. Carcharocles megalodon 11. ? 12. Carcharodon carcharias 13. Carcharocles megalodon 14. Fraglodon indetus 15. Alopias? 16. Sphyrna? 17. Fraglodon indetus 18. Physogaleus contortus 19. Carcharocles angustidens 20. Fraglodon indetus 21. Hemipristis serra 22. Carcharhinus sp. 23. Physogaleus contortus 24. ? 25. Carcharocles angustidens 26. Isurus oxyrinchus 27. Carcharocles angustidens 28. Hemipristis serra 29. ? 30. Cetorhinus maximus? 31. Carcharocles megalodon 32. Hemipristis serra 33. Isurus oxyrinchus 34. Carcharias? 35. Isurus desori? 36. Carcharocles megalodon 37. Alopias sp. 38. Carcharocles angustidens 39. Carcharocles megalodon 40. ? 41. Galeocerdo curvier 42. Hemipristis serra 43. Hemipristis serra 44. Carcharocles megalodon 45. Galeocedro? 46. Carcharocles angustidens 47. Carcharocles megalodon 48. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 49. Carcharocles angustidens? 50. Carcharodon carcharias 51. Negaprion? 52. Carcharocles megalodon 53. Carcharhinus? 54. Carcharocles megalodon 55. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 56. Carcharias sp. 57. Fraglodon indetus 58. Carcharias sp. 59. ? 60. Negaprion? 61. Physogaleus contortus 62. Fraglodon indetus 63. Negaprion? 64. Carcharhinus sp. 65. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 66. Carcharocles megalodon 67. Carcharocles angustidens 68. Carcharhinus? 69. Carcharocles megalodon 70. Carcharocles megalodon 71. Hemipristis serra? 72. Fraglodon indetus 73. Hemipristis serra 74. Alopias sp. 75. Carcharocles megalodon 76. Hemipristis serra 77. Hemipristis serra 78. Carcarhinus leucas 79. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 80. Hemipristis serra 81. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 82. Carcharocles megalodon 83. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 84. Alopias? 85. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 86. Physogaleus contortus 87. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 88. Fraglodon indetus 89. Rhizoprionodon? 90. Fraglodon indetus 91. Hemipristis serra 92. Carcharocles megalodon 93. Carcharocles megalodon 94. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 95. Negaprion? 96. Alopias? 97. Isurus desori 98. Carcharhinus sp. 99. Physogaleus contortus 100. Hemipristis serra 101. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 102. Fraglodon indetus 103. Physogaleus contortus 104. Fraglodon indetus 105. Fraglodon indetus 106. Hemipristis serra 107. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 108. Cosmopolitodus hastalis 109. Alopias? 110. ? 111. Carcharodon carcharias 112. Carcharias? 113. Carcharocles megalodon 114. Carcharias? 115. Isurus oxyrinchus 116. Galeocedro sp. 117. Hemipristis serra 118. Carcharias sp. 119. ? 120. Galeorhinus? 121. ? 122. Rhincodon typus? 123. Negaprion? 124. Fraglodon indetus 125. Sphyrna? 126. Rhincodon typus? 127. Hemipristis serra 128. Sphyrna? 129. Sphyrna sp. 130. Cosmopolitodus hastalis? (posterior) 131. Cetorhinus maximus 132. Galeocedro sp. /end list Goodness! Fair play. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thdoc Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, caldigger said: Is #17 a tooth? 2 hours ago, caldigger said: Is #17 a tooth? This is 17 shard of a tooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thdoc Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 We got heavy rain two days during the week. This is the larger teeth we found Saturday and Sunday and one day earlier in the week all in all three trips out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thdoc Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Thanks to all of you for the ID help truly amazing the knowledge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Macrophyseter said: 84. Alopias? I think its a worn Physogaleus. 8 hours ago, Macrophyseter said: 15. Alopias? Definitely, can’t tell from the pictures which one. If it has a nutrition groove it’s probably A. latidens and if not A. supercilious. 8 hours ago, Macrophyseter said: Fraglodon indetus Chuckle chuckle 8 hours ago, Macrophyseter said: Galeocedro Galeocerdo* Just a few little revisions, mostly on point, which is impressive as you just IDed more teeth than most do in a few months! “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 hours ago, 2thdoc said: heavy rain two days during the week. This is the larger teeth we found Saturday and Sunday and one day earlier in the week all in all three trips out. That’s is an insane amount of megs/angys! Love the lightning strikes on the one! “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrophyseter Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 5 hours ago, WhodamanHD said: I think its a worn Physogaleus. Could be possible, but I'm not sure. Imo, a closeup and better lighting on this tooth will make it sure. 5 hours ago, WhodamanHD said: Definitely, can’t tell from the pictures which one. If it has a nutrition groove it’s probably A. latidens and if not A. supercilious. Funny, doing a quick search, If I'm right, it turns out that both species can have nutrient grooves, so that blurs the line I guess. Also, the photo is too blurry at that point to be sure if there is a nutrition groove, although it kind of looks like that there could be. 6 hours ago, WhodamanHD said: Galeocerdo* Goodness, another one! Corrected. If you're a fossil nut from Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Redondo Beach, or Torrance, feel free to shoot me a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Macrophyseter said: Funny, doing a quick search, If I'm right, it turns out that both species can have nutrient grooves, so that blurs the line I guess. Here’s a picture of A. latidens from elasmo, I have some as well at home but they are not big enough for my camera to take nice pictures. Here are some excerpts from a webpage on “The sharks Of New Jersey” as well. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrophyseter Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 37 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: Here’s a picture of A. latidens from elasmo, I have some as well at home but they are not big enough for my camera to take nice pictures. Here are some excerpts from a webpage on “The sharks Of New Jersey” as well. So I guess the rule of thumb is that if you can't clearly see a nutrient grove (or groove? Both spellings can potentially mean very differently, so which one is the correct spelling?), even if there is indeed one, it is most likely A. latidens. If a nutrient grove is clearly seen, then it is most likely A. superciliosus. If you're a fossil nut from Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Redondo Beach, or Torrance, feel free to shoot me a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Macrophyseter said: So I guess the rule of thumb is that if you can't clearly see a nutrient grove (or groove? Both spellings can potentially mean very differently, so which one is the correct spelling?), even if there is indeed one, it is most likely A. latidens. If a nutrient grove is clearly seen, then it is most likely A. superciliosus. I realize I messed up on my first post on the subject, LATIDENS DOES NOT typically have a nutrient groove and SUPERCILIOUS DOES. Latidens is more common in most places, but will rarely have a nutrient groove (which I think is the right spelling as a grove is a thicket of trees). They also tend to have a thicker root. Supercilious has a nice groove and a thinner root. Perhaps the OP could show individual pictures of them? “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrophyseter Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: I realize I messed up on my first post on the subject, LATIDENS DOES NOT typically have a nutrient groove and SUPERCILIOUS DOES. I've noticed that long before 6 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: Latidens is more common in most places, but will rarely have a nutrient groove (which I think is the right spelling as a grove is a thicket of trees). They also tend to have a thicker root. Supercilious has a nice groove and a thinner root. So I guess it is still possible to guess the exact species for #15 via root thickness. 6 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: Perhaps the OP could show individual pictures of them? @2thdoc If you would like us to try to determine the exact species of tooth #16, would it be possible to post another picture of the tooth but close-up and with better lighting? Thanks. If you're a fossil nut from Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Redondo Beach, or Torrance, feel free to shoot me a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miocene_Mason Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, Macrophyseter said: So I guess it is still possible to guess the exact species for #15 via root thickness. 40 minutes ago, WhodamanHD said: Yeah, if you have a good picture it’s usually identifiable. “...whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been and are being evolved.” ~ Charles Darwin Happy hunting, Mason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thdoc Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 19 hours ago, WhodamanHD said: I realize I messed up on my first post on the subject, LATIDENS DOES NOT typically have a nutrient groove and SUPERCILIOUS DOES. Latidens is more common in most places, but will rarely have a nutrient groove (which I think is the right spelling as a grove is a thicket of trees). They also tend to have a thicker root. Supercilious has a nice groove and a thinner root. Perhaps the OP could show individual pictures of them? Hey guys been a busy week for me so far I will go through and find the teeth in question over the weekend and try to post some better pics in better lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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