BenK Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I know this isn't technically a fossil so I hope it is allowed here but I'm looking for confirmation. Can anyone confirm that these are elk teeth? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BenK Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, BenK said: Any thoughts? Only been an hour since the original post, have patience. Looks like a horse to Me, but I am not well versed with teeth. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 It's an adult selenodont artiodactyl m3. I think it's too small to be from an adult elk. Keep looking. 3 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenK Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 41 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said: It's an adult selenodont artiodactyl m3. I think it's too small to be from an adult elk. Keep looking. What do you mean by m3? What species of not elk? It's roughly 3-4000 years old and found in Missouri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenK Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 I know what you mean now by m3 so disregard. Whatever it was was consumed by native Americans likely in the late archaic period. Just so you have the context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 hours ago, BenK said: It's roughly 3-4000 years old and found in Missouri. I know what you mean now by m3 so disregard. Whatever it was was consumed by native Americans likely in the late archaic period. Just so you have the context. How do You know this? Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 5 hours ago, BenK said: I know what you mean now by m3 so disregard. Whatever it was was consumed by native Americans likely in the late archaic period. Just so you have the context. For some on this forum, Late Archaic is not old enough to be a fossil. But, I am more liberal in my thinking, Now that you know the locale and the age, you can look for appropriately-sized cervids and bovids. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenK Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 From a layer of soil that produces Late Archaic Native American artifacts. Again I know this isn't exactly fitting but I know a lot of folks here really know their teeth. Elk would make the most sense but I'm really seeking confirmation for the purposes of understanding this site and learning. I've come up empty from my usual NA artifact information sources. The internet is surprisingly lacking on mammal tooth ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Elk is a large deer, and this doesn't appear to be from a large cervid. You might consider musk ox, but I don't have any images of lower teeth. 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenK Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 Hmm...musk ox wouldn't make any sense due to me being in Missouri. This is really driving me nuts lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenK Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 Now that I look at it...it looks a lot like bison to me. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, BenK said: Hmm...musk ox wouldn't make any sense due to me being in Missouri. This is really driving me nuts lol. Actually, during the Pleistocene at their greatest advance, glaciers reached as far south as Nebraska and Iowa so it is possible that musk ox remains could be found in Missouri. You could call it unlikely but not impossible. At a flea market a dealer once showed me a Pleistocene tooth from Iowa that he said was musk ox (identified by someone else). Like you, I was very skeptical so I didn't buy it. I should have, if for no other reason, just to show it to Harry and Fossillarry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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