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So we found this vertebra(?) among a few coral and shell fossils (including a tiny starfish!) and we weren't sure whether this was actually a fossil or not (or even a vertebra). It was all in some exposed shale. I don't know much about fossil identification, but I can't seem to find anything that matches this.

 

Here is a link to the location of the site: https://goo.gl/maps/qCGeKFBv85z  

 

I googled different animals currently in the region and there is nothing that I can find that matches. 

 

It's roughly 1 x 1 x 2 inches (sorry for no scale).

 

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Looks modern, to me. 

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You didn't see any deer in the area limping around did you?

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We would love to see a picture of the small starfish. 

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4 hours ago, Harry Pristis said:

 

Compare with:

 

 

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Nice! This is 100% it. 

 

Thank you for your help. 

 

Out of curiosity, how did you know this? Any tips on how I could have come to this conclusion? I'd like to learn more. 

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5 hours ago, Rockwood said:

That's an astragalus (ankle bone) from an artiodactyl. 

Thank you! I don't have too much knowledge about bones/fossils and appreciate the quick ID. There are many deer in the area, so this makes sense. 

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13 minutes ago, sixgill pete said:

We would love to see a picture of the small starfish. 

Sure thing! I'll snap one when I get the chance (it's out of state).

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Many of our members here have many years of experience collecting these things.  ;) 

6 minutes ago, kanthonyjr said:

Out of curiosity, how did you know this? Any tips on how I could have come to this conclusion? I'd like to learn more. 

You might Google image search terms like "deer skeleton", or "artiodactyl skeletal anatomy". 

Books on vertebrate paleontology can be helpful as well. 

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These seem to survive slightly better than the average bone. There's really no meat on them, or marrow in them so scavengers tend to ignore them I guess.

This guy has a fine video explaining it. I didn't notice it right off but here's a link to his play list.

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5 hours ago, Fossildude19 said:

Looks modern, to me.

You might try the burn test to see if odor like burning hair comes from it. That would mean it's modern.

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13 hours ago, kanthonyjr said:

Nice! This is 100% it. 

 

Thank you for your help. 

 

Out of curiosity, how did you know this? Any tips on how I could have come to this conclusion? I'd like to learn more. 

 

These are abundant fossils in Florida.  There are books to help with bone and teeth identification -- search Amazon books for author Richard Hulbert.

 

 

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http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page

 

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