gigantoraptor Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hello all,. I got this bones some time ago, they come from Sauerland, Germany, more exactly the pleistocene depots in this area. They weren't sold as bird bones, but when I compared it to a fossil bird femur it looked like a match. Some bird experts here? I know @Auspex knows a lot from these animals. The bones range from just under 1 cm to 1,5 cm. Hope the pictures work. Greetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hi have you got a macro setting on your camera because they are very blurry. Also trying taking them in daylight your get a better picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Bobby Rico said: Hi have you got a macro setting on your camera because they are very blurry. Also trying taking them in daylight your get a better picture. Both macro and daylight, but cropped because they were too heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, gigantoraptor said: Both macro and daylight, but cropped because they were too heavy. I don’t think you have got them in focus. Turn your automatic focus on and move your camera until it looks sharper. If you have a tripod use that. I really hope they are bird bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Also check your file size may be too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Is this beter @Bobby Rico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, gigantoraptor said: Is this beter @Bobby Rico? I think you camera is focusing on the white material not the fossil try putting them on something white and flatter. I have lightened one to see more but still not great. I have some small turtles bones from Hell Creak and they took me some time to get a good photograph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 What are you taking the picture with? ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Kane said: What are you taking the picture with? A camera with a special macro lens and anti-reflector thing on it. I don't know what kind of brand they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Femurs in particular are of a fairly universal general design, but I think that these are much too robust (in girth) for their length, to be avian. 4 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 The expert beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Someone who knows what it might be then? Thanks Auspex for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 Nobody who has an Idea about these? Could they be bat? That's what they were sold as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, gigantoraptor said: Could they be bat? Not an expert, but in my opinion yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 After considering it further, I'm afraid these are a bit robust for a bat also. Length/diameter being the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 The bat bones I have seen from Florida Brooksvile seems a lot finer than yours. Let’s hope someone can help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I think that a small land mammal is most likely. Maybe a rabbit or possum sized thing. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 1:04 PM, gigantoraptor said: The bones range from just under 1 cm to 1,5 cm. No rabbit stew for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rockwood said: No rabbit stew for you. Not even baby rabbit? Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 @ynot, @Rockwood, @Bobby Rico Sorry but I mixed up the labels. These bones are not from the Pleistocene but from the middle Paleocene. I found this femur from a species inside the Adapisoriculidae. What do you think. Similarities? I have a couple more that def look like the first type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 And I also have such a bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, gigantoraptor said: What do you think. Similarities? I don't think similarities are going to cut it. Someone experienced with the group may be able to say, but these things are usually identified by the teeth I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, ynot said: Not even baby rabbit? Fetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 It would help to know a little Bit more about the exactly location. Sauerland is an area with a lot of thousands Kilometers....usually there is a good knowledge about Fauna of each locality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantoraptor Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, Pemphix said: It would help to know a little Bit more about the exactly location. Sauerland is an area with a lot of thousands Kilometers....usually there is a good knowledge about Fauna of each locality. The fissure fills of Walbeck is the exact location. I forgot to add because the labels were mixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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