ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hi, I'm concerned that these four trilobites may be fakes. I bought them a long time ago by a guy, who claimed they were genuine. Some of them, especially the Psychopyge, almost looks too good to be real. But I wanna know what other people think. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 1. Proetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 2. Paralejurus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 3. Psychopyge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 4. Cambropallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Try retaking the first two pictures looking straight down on the specimen. Oblique angles makes it challenging to make out the details to determine authenticity. The last two look a bit dodgy. The Psychopyge appears to have some carved elements, and there may be some composite restorations on the Camproballas. ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 The first two look completely real. they both have very crisp detail you generally do not see on fakes. The third one does look quite dubious and I would pass on that one. The fourth one looks like a typical Cambropallas that has repaired areas. Likely a real trilobite with some areas sculpted/restored. There's also the possibility with these that it was composited from different incomplete Cambropallas trilobites. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 49 minutes ago, Kane said: Try retaking the first two pictures looking straight down on the specimen. Oblique angles makes it challenging to make out the details to determine authenticity. Here you go, hope this is better: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 52 minutes ago, Kane said: Try retaking the first two pictures looking straight down on the specimen. Oblique angles makes it challenging to make out the details to determine authenticity. and... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Much better, thanks! It is real (this species is common and not worth faking), with the only enhancements being whatever coating they apply to make it "pop." ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, LordTrilobite said: The first two look completely real. they both have very crisp detail you generally do not see on fakes. The third one does look quite dubious and I would pass on that one. The fourth one looks like a typical Cambropallas that has repaired areas. Likely a real trilobite with some areas sculpted/restored. There's also the possibility with these that it was composited from different incomplete Cambropallas trilobites. 1 minute ago, Kane said: Much better, thanks! It is real (this species is common and not worth faking), with the only enhancements being whatever coating they apply to make it "pop." Thank you so much for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeon.rocks Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1&2 are real (2. is a nice one) 3 is very quick prep, "nose" is completely fake and there are other areas heavily "restored", missing spines etc - pass on it, unless it's very cheap (≤50$); hard to say from this one pic only, but it's what you should expect fake ones look like 4 is also heavily restored, especially cephalon, but typical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeon.rocks Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 PS: checked 3 again on close up: it's 100% fake, mold - not even a bit real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, aeon.rocks said: PS: checked 3 again on close up: it's 100% fake, mold - not even a bit real Thanks, that's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitch1979 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 hey there .. 3rd one is complete fake, sorry. Can you make a picture of the backside of the cambropallas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitch1979 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 first 2 trilos are 100% real cambropallas (there are even more fracture lines then marked yet on the cephalon part) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 59 minutes ago, Fitch1979 said: hey there .. 3rd one is complete fake, sorry. Can you make a picture of the backside of the cambropallas? Backside of cambropallas: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrehistoricMaster Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 49 minutes ago, Fitch1979 said: first 2 trilos are 100% real cambropallas (there are even more fracture lines then marked yet on the cephalon part) WOW! Thanks for the illustration, that's really helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamL Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 So were the prep marks added to the third one to make it appear real? Yorkshire Coast Fossil Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeon.rocks Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 18 hours ago, LiamL said: So were the prep marks added to the third one to make it appear real? Yes, to make it look quick rough preped, but check the close up where you can easily see air bubbles and lack of details. It's typical psychopyge fake: Compared to real one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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