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Bobby Rico Regular Member

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2 hours ago, Paleoworld-101 said:

something as complete as this legal to keep? 

In the uk yes it was found on the beach and no bedrock was hammered. All aboveboard here. 

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4 minutes ago, Bobby Rico said:

In the uk yes it was found on the beach and no bedrock was hammered. All aboveboard here. 

What about if someone like me found that and wanted to ship it out of the country, still legal?

 

I've collected a lot from the UK so i know it's generally OK but thought maybe it would be a different story specifically for something this large and complete. 

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21 minutes ago, Paleoworld-101 said:

What about if someone like me found that and wanted to ship it out of the country, still legal?

 

I've collected a lot from the UK so i know it's generally OK but thought maybe it would be a different story specifically for something this large and complete. 

I don’t really know sorry but I can’t see a problem legally.

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I wouldn't leave it to chance, and would arrange to talk to someone at the customs office just to obtain clarity on whether a piece like that would qualify as an allowable export. There could be an obscure provision in place, such as a limit on the fair market value (FMV) on any exported fossil material. Best to ask before taking any risk with any premium specimen. 

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14 minutes ago, Kane said:

I wouldn't leave it to chance, and would arrange to talk to someone at the customs office just to obtain clarity on whether a piece like that would qualify as an allowable export. There could be an obscure provision in place, such as a limit on the fair market value (FMV) on any exported fossil material. Best to ask before taking any risk with any premium specimen. 

I believe the export value limit for fossils leaving the UK is 41 670 pounds, which is a very generous and hefty sum of money. But who gets to value the specimen, and how would they even put a price on it without just pulling a number out of their behind? 

"In Africa, one can't help becoming caught up in the spine-chilling excitement of the hunt. Perhaps, it has something to do with a memory of a time gone by, when we were the prey, and our nights were filled with darkness..."

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1 minute ago, Paleoworld-101 said:

I believe the export value limit for fossils leaving the UK is 41 670 pounds, which is a very generous and hefty sum of money. But who gets to value the specimen, and how would they even put a price on it without just pulling a number out of their behind? 

Very good question. And is there a provision in place that a museum has first dibs on the specimen if it is deemed of scientific value? I suppose a customs agent could make an inquiry of a specialist who would provide a ballpark figure for what FMV would be. Still, best to clear things with customs rather than chance it on hearsay or luck!

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I can give a ballpark figure on value if you pm me. Exporting will attract VAT/sales tax but shouldn’t attract import duty, a least in the EU, but as others have said speak to a specialist. 

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This has to be one of the best display pieces on the entire forum. Truly fantastic.

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On 15/01/2019 at 8:47 PM, LordTrilobite said:

This has to be one of the best display pieces on the entire forum. Truly fantastic.

I will have to agree with you on that one really amazing

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@MattFossil,

I apologize for taking so long with this, but I had to polish the rarely-used Golden Drool Bucket before I could award it for this incredible fossil.
A museum-grade specimen of an iconic fossil, flawlessly prepared...this one has everything that I had in mind when creating the award years ago (and is an example of why it is so rarely bestowed).

 

Matt, your gorgeous find will stoke awe and wonder in all who see it, and will encourage others to pursue their dreams of finding that perfect specimen.

Thank you for sharing it with us!

 

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Indeed, this personal find is the stuff of dreams.  Congratulations, Matt.

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1 hour ago, rew said:

Vertebrate of the year.

Vertebrate of my dreams.

:envy:

 

Congrats on the GDB!!

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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I know I'm late, but seriously, you really do deserve that GDB award, @MattFossil - the specimen is absolutely incredible :D

Congrats!!

-Christian

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Opalised fossils are the best: a wonderful mix between paleontology and mineralogy!

 

Q. Where do dinosaurs study?

A. At Khaan Academy!...

 

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Thanks everyone for your lovely comments and awards. They mean a lot!

 

It's on display at Charmouth Heritage Centre if anyone is visiting the area and wants to see it in the flesh.

 

Cheers,

 

Matt

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On 8/27/2018 at 7:50 AM, MattFossil said:

Hi all,

Just thought I'd share my ichthyosaur which I discovered near Lyme Regis in Dorset, UK.

Best fossil I've ever found!

Cheers,

Matt

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If you ever find a better fossil than this, please show it to us.Incredible! is this the original articulation?

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1 hour ago, MattFossil said:

It's on display at Charmouth Heritage Centre if anyone is visiting the area and wants to see it in the flesh.

That's great to hear that it is on public display. I thank you for your generosity in letting others see this beautiful ichthyosaur beyond those here on TFF. If I had such a nice fossil on display in a public forum I'd be walking around with my chest so puffed up that I'd need to buy bigger shirts. ;)

 

I think I can speak for our membership here on the forum when I say, "Well done, sir!"

:tiphat:

 

I think we'd all enjoy seeing a photo of it being displayed as not all are in the area to be able to swing by and see it in person.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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Thank you! Yes, it's the original articulation. I had a CT scan done which showed some additional bones outside of the initially prepared area. This identified the remains of rear paddle which I asked to be prepped out at the same time the jaw got reconstructed. I think it would have spoiled the shape to prepare any more of the scatter.

 

I like that it's gone on display for others to enjoy and to inspire the next generation. The way I look at it is that we're only looking after the fossils for the time we're alive and we can't take them with us!

 

Cheers,

 

Matt

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