austinswamp Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Is this what I think it is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrophyseter Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Selenodont dentition, could be a cattle jaw. If you're a fossil nut from Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Redondo Beach, or Torrance, feel free to shoot me a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinswamp Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 Not all that convinced, aren't those three molars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, austinswamp said: Not all that convinced, aren't those three molars? Actually 3 1/2 molars are in the piece. Agree with bovine (cow). Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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austinswamp Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, ynot said: Actually 3 1/2 molars are in the piece. Agree with bovine (cow). Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 hours ago, austinswamp said: Is this what I think it is? What were you thinking it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I think the teeth are too small to be from a cow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Siphuncle Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Looks like too much wear for a calf. 1 Grüße, Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas "To the motivated go the spoils." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 This is NOT like any cow/calf I have ever seen and I have seen LOTS of them. Details on length and location found....? I am thinking sheep or goat. EDITED to change my opinion to peccary or modern Sus @Harry Pristis 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 This is an odd one. Almost certainly an artiodactyl mandible with half of p3 - m2. Too small to be a cow. Not goat, but sheep is possible. That p4 should prove diagnostic. Apparently, a senile individual and likely not a fossil. 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Interesting! I think, but I'm really not sure, it might be something in the line of a pig. I could be wrong. excerpt from here " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Well, pig and peccary were among the things I eliminated before I responded. I don't have any sheep teeth for comparison. Austinswamp, you didn't find this near a South Texas hunting ranch that has exotic animals, did you? 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 It is difficult to find a decent occlusal view of a sheep lower jaw, This is the closest example I could find.. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/sheep-tooth.html There are lots of similarities to Austinswamp's jaw. 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Well, I had these two modern jaws labeled as sheep in my collection. Now thinking I may have been wrong, because the teeth are very different from those in the jaw of the OP. What do you think mine are? Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 That's Sus scrofa, Max . . . a domestic pig. 3 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said: That's Sus scrofa, Max . . . a domestic pig. Ah ok. Sus scrofa it is. Thanks Is it possible to distinguish wild boar from pig? Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Probably not much difference between European boar teeth and domestic pig teeth; but, I don't have any boar teeth to compare. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinswamp Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 On 9/4/2018 at 9:44 PM, Harry Pristis said: Well, pig and peccary were among the things I eliminated before I responded. I don't have any sheep teeth for comparison. Austinswamp, you didn't find this near a South Texas hunting ranch that has exotic animals, did you? Central Texas Travis county Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 8 hours ago, austinswamp said: Central Texas Travis county What about the possibility of exotic animals in the area? http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 6:28 PM, Max-fossils said: Well, I had these two modern jaws labeled as sheep in my collection. Now thinking I may have been wrong, because the teeth are very different from those in the jaw of the OP. What do you think mine are? These definitely resemble Sus scrofa, as Harry said it earlier in the topic. 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I have no idea where in Travis county he found it, but Texas has a lot of exotic animal farms. Llamas are fairly common on farms besides exotic animal farms. Could it be llama? I’m thinking they would be a bit bigger, but their bigness is mostly legs and neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 9/6/2018 at 4:43 PM, abyssunder said: These definitely resemble Sus scrofa, as Harry said it earlier in the topic. No, that's not right. I said that I eliminated Sus scrofa as a possibility. I could have been right or wrong, but don't mis-quote me. I still think it's not Sus, and I think that a careful comparison of tooth positions will confirm it. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Harry Pristis said: No, that's not right. I said that I eliminated Sus scrofa as a possibility. I could have been right or wrong, but don't mis-quote me. Harry, I was referring to Max's specimens not to the O.P.'s. I thought you were referring to Max's specimens saying "That's Sus scrofa, Max . . . a domestic pig.". " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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