Wrangellian Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Can anyone tell me whether this seller has these IDs right? I figured the first one looks like an Achistrum (sea cucumber) to me. The seller has others that I have questions about too but won't post them all. @RCFossils ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 The links towards the announcements of sale on the favorite site of bids (or the others) are forbidden... Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I'm not one of the experts in this, but am very interested, have some fossils from Mazon Creek and done a bit of reading. The first one looks like a coprolite and the second one, though it looks a beauty and very interesting, i have never heard of that genus. But let's wait for the people who actually know what they're talking about. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 @Wrangellian Eric, Please do not post links to Seller's websites. Thank you. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 Sorry, I was not trying to promote the sales, I just wanted the IDs. Is it OK to take their pics and post them here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 As long as there isn't any ad copy involved. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 OK.. I'm not sure that the seller would give me permission to post his pics elsewhere if I asked him. They would be up here indefinitely, not just for the duration of the sale, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 Here are the items in question. The first is being ID'd as a 'Nonannelid worm'. Looks like Achistrum to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 This one is being ID'd as Hystriciola. I have a specimen of one very similar that was labeled 'Fossundecima'. Maybe I should post mine too - I'm not sure which one is the misidentified one (if either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 While we're at it, is this a Lascoa or just another Essexella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I'm thinking the identifications are correct. I searched for some diagnostic features not present, but that could just be the particular specimens and they still could be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, fossilcrazy said: I'm thinking the identifications are correct. I searched for some diagnostic features not present, but that could just be the particular specimens and they still could be correct. Thanks John. Does Lascoa have an obvious bell like Essexella does? It looks like a bell there (at the bottom in the first pic). The pics I've seen of Lascoa look to me like a blob without an obvious bell, but of course I could be wrong about that too (having not seen many good pics of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 @Nimravis @fossilized6s ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCFossils Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 The first specimen is a sea cucumber The second may be Hystriciola but it would be impossible to know for sure unless the jaws are well preserved. The third is an Essexella jellyfish Unfortunately, the idntification of the majority of Mazon animals that are posted on auction sites are incorrect. Hope that helps 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I agree with @RCFossils and looking at the annelid worm, it probably would have been a great specimen, but looking at the concretion it appears that it was found opened and in the elements for some type, thus messing with the preservation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 Thanks guys, that does help. It's funny how some sellers are so confident of their IDs as this guy is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCFossils Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 13 hours ago, Wrangellian said: Thanks guys, that does help. It's funny how some sellers are so confident of their IDs as this guy is. Unfortunately, I have noticed several sellers over the years purposely misrepresenting the Mazon fossils they are selling. I am not saying it is the case with this particular seller however you will often times see very common animals labeled as rare/valuable types. On many occasions, I have seen people pay hundreds of dollars for worthless pieces. If you are thinking about purchasing what you think might be a rare item, it is best to get a second opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 33 minutes ago, RCFossils said: Unfortunately, I have noticed several sellers over the years purposely misrepresenting the Mazon fossils they are selling. I am not saying it is the case with this particular seller however you will often times see very common animals labeled as rare/valuable types. On many occasions, I have seen people pay hundreds of dollars for worthless pieces. If you are thinking about purchasing what you think might be a rare item, it is best to get a second opinion. That was my thinking. I'm buying a Neuropteris from him, skipping everything else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, RCFossils said: Unfortunately, I have noticed several sellers over the years purposely misrepresenting the Mazon fossils they are selling. I am not saying it is the case with this particular seller however you will often times see very common animals labeled as rare/valuable types. On many occasions, I have seen people pay hundreds of dollars for worthless pieces. If you are thinking about purchasing what you think might be a rare item, it is best to get a second opinion. I saw one on our favorite auction site that was a tully. The thing is, you could totally tell it was sculpted and was carved. I couldn't help but to laugh and cry as people had actually bid on it. ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Raggedy Man said: I saw one on our favorite auction site that was a tully. The thing is, you could totally tell it was sculpted and was carved. I couldn't help but to laugh and cry as people had actually bid on it. Here is a sculpted Tully of mine- lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 28 minutes ago, Nimravis said: Here is a sculpted Tully of mine- lol. Thats pretty sweet. Did you do that your self? ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Raggedy Man said: Thats pretty sweet. Did you do that your self? No, it was made back in 1990 for an older friend that I use to collect with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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