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fifbrindacier

Hi, i'd like to show you pieces i brang back from the Permian of Lodève, South of France.

I believe those are Lebachiae, but i'd like to know if you agree.

Thanks, Sophie.

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Tidgy's Dad

That's what they look like to me! 

Lebachia, or the like.

Super finds, Sophie! :)

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Innocentx

I'd say so, yes. Nice ones!

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fifbrindacier
1 hour ago, Fossildude19 said:

I respectfully disagree.  :)

 

They look more like Culmitzschia speciosa, and Culmitzschia goeppertiana, or Hermitia germanica.

 

See this page and this one. 

Wow, i've tried to have a look on the net to work on that ID, but i didn't cross those sites, thanks Fossildude.

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fifbrindacier

I thought those ones could be Walchiae :

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ynot
1 hour ago, Fossildude19 said:

I respectfully disagree.  :)

Way to go Tim!!!:thumbsu:

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fifbrindacier

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fifbrindacier

And those items for which i have no idea :

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fifbrindacier

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FossilsAnonymous

Wow! Really cool!

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fifbrindacier
2 minutes ago, FossilsAnonymous said:

Wow! Really cool!

Thank you !:)

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Innocentx

@Fossildude19 Very specific references. Excellent.

 

@fifbrindacier More interesting finds. Thanks for showing!

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fifbrindacier

Thank you @Innocentx:)

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Coco

Sophie, I often tell the Americans that the foreigners don't know the size of their coins. Do you believe that they know how much measure 20 centimes of euros ? :headscratch: Could you give the size of your specimens ? ;) Thanks for them !

 

Coco

 

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fifbrindacier
14 hours ago, Coco said:

Sophie, I often tell the Americans that the foreigners don't know the size of their coins. Do you believe that they know how much measure 20 centimes of euros ? :headscratch: Could you give the size of your specimens ? ;) Thanks for them !

 

Coco

 

You're right Coco, i should have thought about this, the coin of 20 centimes of Euros is 2 centimeters wide ( 1 inch = 2,5 centimeters), that give an idea of the size of the spécimens, but i'll give their size more precisely if someone asks it.

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Coco

:dinothumb: ;)

 

coco

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paleoflor

Nice to see material from the Lodève area. Regarding the walchian conifer remains, you might find the following paper useful: Visscher, Kerp and Clement-Westerhof (1986). Aspects of Permian palaeobotany and palynology VI. Towards a flexible system of naming Palaeozoic conifers. Acta Botanica Neerlandica 35(2), 87-99. It should be noted, however, that the classification proposed is one of two schools of thought, the other being proposed in: Mapes and Rothwell (1991). Structure and relationships of primitive conifers. Neues Jahrb Geol Palaeontol Abh 183, 269-287.

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fifbrindacier
On ‎08‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 9:48 PM, paleoflor said:

Nice to see material from the Lodève area. Regarding the walchian conifer remains, you might find the following paper useful: Visscher, Kerp and Clement-Westerhof (1986). Aspects of Permian palaeobotany and palynology VI. Towards a flexible system of naming Palaeozoic conifers. Acta Botanica Neerlandica 35(2), 87-99. It should be noted, however, that the classification proposed is one of two schools of thought, the other being proposed in: Mapes and Rothwell (1991). Structure and relationships of primitive conifers. Neues Jahrb Geol Palaeontol Abh 183, 269-287.

Thanks for your answer, i'll have a look at your documents quickly.

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fifbrindacier
On ‎19‎/‎09‎/‎2018 at 9:36 PM, fifbrindacier said:

Here are the ones i prefer.

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On ‎19‎/‎09‎/‎2018 at 9:25 PM, fifbrindacier said:

I thought those ones could be Walchiae :

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abyssunder

Nice finds! :)

I like this one with beautiful dendritic growths. As it was determined from the Lodeve Basin paleosols, the black dendrites contain Mn, the brown ones Fe.

 

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