Bronzviking Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Hello, I found this worn bone fragment in SW Florida and it has some distinct marks, separating it from my typical tumbled bone. It's approximately 2 1/2" x 1". It has 2 raised areas on one side and what appears to be a worn down tooth surface on the tip or enamel?? Hopefully these marks will be enough to ID. Thanks guys & Gals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Interesting fragment. I am not seeing anything suggesting a tooth. I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 I need the help from the Florida fossil guys. @Shellseeker @Harry Pristis @PrehistoricFlorida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Looks like it could be a bone fragment, not a tooth. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I to do not see tooth in this. Looks like bone and most likely to worn to go beyond that. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Could this be a chewing surface? It is shiny like enamel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 These 2 areas in red are raised. Does this give us any clues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Sorry, but it still looks like weathered mineralized bone to Me. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I agree with Tony and Pete about it being a bone fragment although I can see why you are asking. Not really a bone person but I also think its too worn to make anything out of the raised areas in the last photo. That same earlier photo sold me on the bone fragment idea where it shows along the lower right edge an elongated porous cellular structure (circled below) that I attribute to bone and I dont believe you'll find it in any teeth. Maybe Harry and the others will correct me on that thought. Anyways here's a picture of what turned out to be a horse long bone end that I thought for sure when I first saw it (mostly buried) was a mastodon tooth--at least I was hoping it was. I thought I was seeing an enamel surface which turned out to be just a bone end that was oh so shiney. Upon cleaning off the clay/mud/sand and looking at the other side I could see the inner bone porosity and a thinner denser outer layer and the actual joint surface. I think your find is somewhat similar----a piece of bone now very worn and showing some porosity/cancellous spots and more dense areas. No clue what bone or as to what critter it came from, just not enough there as the others have said. I like wondering about these sorts of pieces though..I spend too much time doing that....... Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Plantguy said: I agree with Tony and Pete about it being a bone fragment although I can see why you are asking. Not really a bone person but I also think its too worn to make anything out of the raised areas in the last photo. That same earlier photo sold me on the bone fragment idea where it shows along the lower right edge an elongated porous cellular structure (circled below) that I attribute to bone and I dont believe you'll find it in any teeth. Maybe Harry and the others will correct me on that thought. Anyways here's a picture of what turned out to be a horse long bone end that I thought for sure when I first saw it (mostly buried) was a mastodon tooth--at least I was hoping it was. I thought I was seeing an enamel surface which turned out to be just a bone end that was oh so shiney. Upon cleaning off the clay/mud/sand and looking at the other side I could see the inner bone porosity and a thinner denser outer layer and the actual joint surface. I think your find is somewhat similar----a piece of bone now very worn and showing some porosity/cancellous spots and more dense areas. No clue what bone or as to what critter it came from, just not enough there as the others have said. I like wondering about these sorts of pieces though..I spend too much time doing that....... Regards, Chris Thanks Chris for looking and commenting. Yes I know I have quite an imagination and we always wish for something better, Lol. I think I have a good eye even though I'm a bone rookie but I'm learning. I'm going to switch gears and go from mouth to feet, Lol. I saw this photo in a book I'm reading called The fossil vertebrates of Florida; Artiodactyls chapter. Below is a picture of a Bison Latifrons distal Phalanx and I see similarities with my piece. It's curved and pointy like my bone and has the porous cellular structure that you had circled. Also could the other end be a joint surface? Please take another look and decide if this could be a partial toe/hoof bone? @Plantguy Thanks! Harry could you take a look please? @Harry Pristis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I'm skeptical with the fragmentary nature of the specimen and my limited experience with bone/teeth but I see what you are asking about. Maybe Harry or one of the others has something more they can add. Keep that enthusiaum and imagination...I still do pick up fragments of things and wonder all the time. I will tell you that I have a slew of ID investigations/attempts where I saw something that was too incomplete or poorly preserved to validate thru pictures or in some cases in person. Sometimes I'm just flat wrong and saw things that arent. That has never discouraged my curiosity and I have learned much about things by asking many many questions...sometimes much to the dismay of others. On the other side of the coin I've found/noticed things that others havent and sometimes it takes getting to the right expert to validate/explain what you are seeing... even when the consensus says something different. Continued hunting success! Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 7:06 PM, Bronzviking said: I need the help from the Florida fossil guys. @Shellseeker @Harry Pristis @PrehistoricFlorida It's a tumbled piece of bone. Not a tooth or bison hoof core as suggested above. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 2 hours ago, PrehistoricFlorida said: It's a tumbled piece of bone. Not a tooth or bison hoof core as suggested above. Thanks for looking. So I guess it is too worn to identify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 14 hours ago, Bronzviking said: Thanks for looking. So I guess it is too worn to identify? Yes, it is far too fragmentary and worn to positively identify. Keep looking, you're on the right track! www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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