David in Japan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi guys, few weeks ago I created the following topics to help me identify a tooth I found here in Japan. I am sorry, I won't be able to give you accurate information until I get green light but I will update this topics as soon as I can say more. I get some help for everyone and @Anomotodon who pushed me in the right direction with his suggestion. After further searches, I contacted a Japanese professor who confirmed me it was an Heterodontus indet. tooth. I am particularly excited because it could be (according to paleodb.org) the oldest Heterodontus tooth found in Japan as right now the oldest one is an early Oligocene tooth from kita-kyushu, and one of the oldest in Asia (the oldest in also Cenomanian of age from Kazakhstan). I am finger crossing everything I can in hope that further studies will confirm that. The tooth has been donated to a Kumamoto museum. 10 ~~~~~~~~~~~~〇~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Warmest greetings from Kumamoto、 Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, David in Japan said: Hi guys, few weeks ago I created the following topics to help me identify a tooth I found here in Japan. I am sorry, I won't be able to give you accurate information until I get green light but I will update this topics as soon as I can say more. I get some help for everyone and @Anomotodon who pushed me in the right direction with his suggestion. After further searches, I contacted a Japanese professor who confirmed me it was an Heterodontus indet. tooth. I am particularly excited because it could be (according to paleodb.org) the oldest Heterodontus tooth found in Japan as right now the oldest one is an early Oligocene tooth from kita-kyushu, and one of the oldest in Asia (the oldest in also Cenomanian of age from Kazakhstan). I am finger crossing everything I can in hope that further studies will confirm that. The tooth has been donated to a Kumamoto museum. Congratulations David! Definitely an exciting accomplishment! Dave I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomotodon Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Nice find! Sorry for bringing disappointment, but Heterodontus is known from much earlier, since Toarcian, and it is also known from Albian of Kazakhstan and Aptian of Russia. Also, paleodb is usually less accurate than scientific papers. Check Herman, 1989 and Thies, 1989 3 The Tooth Fairy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Japan Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, Anomotodon said: Nice find! Sorry for bringing disappointment, but Heterodontus is known from much earlier, since Toarcian, and it is also known from Albian of Kazakhstan and Aptian of Russia. Also, paleodb is usually less accurate than scientific papers. Check Herman, 1989 and Thies, 1989 I believe you concerning Paleodb ( and everything you wrote), every specimens are registered there but when you say Heterodontus is known from Toarcian, you are speaking in general isn't it (not about Asia)? If you are speaking about Asia, well I knew late Aptian- Cenomanian specimens were found in Central Asia but not as early as Toarcian. Anyway, not disappointed at all as it will still help some people to understand those shark distribution and a I am still proud I have been able to find (thanks to your help) a tooth 70MY older than the previous tooth found in Japan. I would be a little bit disappointed if after study it would be found not to be an Heterodontus tooth 1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~〇~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Warmest greetings from Kumamoto、 Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 hours ago, David in Japan said: Hi guys, few weeks ago I created the following topics to help me identify a tooth I found here in Japan. I am sorry, I won't be able to give you accurate information until I get green light but I will update this topics as soon as I can say more. I get some help for everyone and @Anomotodon who pushed me in the right direction with his suggestion. After further searches, I contacted a Japanese professor who confirmed me it was an Heterodontus indet. tooth. I am particularly excited because it could be (according to paleodb.org) the oldest Heterodontus tooth found in Japan as right now the oldest one is an early Oligocene tooth from kita-kyushu, and one of the oldest in Asia (the oldest in also Cenomanian of age from Kazakhstan). I am finger crossing everything I can in hope that further studies will confirm that. The tooth has been donated to a Kumamoto museum. David, As soon as you get the green light, make sure to post it under the Partners in Paleontology Gallery, using the correct format. We'll get you your badge once that is done! Good job, David. Well done. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Well done my good friend David. Great news indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFOOLEY Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 11 hours ago, David in Japan said: ...I am finger crossing everything I can in hope that further studies will confirm that... ...this is awesome...Good luck, David! "I am glad I shall never be young without wild country to be young in. Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?" ~Aldo Leopold (1887-1948) New Mexico Museum of Natural History Bulletins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepTimeIsotopes Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just saw this topic. I'm excited to see where this goes! 1 Each dot is 50,000,000 years: Hadean............Archean..............................Proterozoic.......................................Phanerozoic........... Paleo......Meso....Ceno.. Ꞓ.OSD.C.P.Tr.J.K..Pg.NgQ< You are here Doesn't time just fly by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Wow, that is a good find! Congratulations! 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Marvelous. Well done, David, great stuff. 1 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Japan Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 Thank you all. Some feedback of what happened at the museum. The fossil has been donated to the Natural History Museum of Goshoura (御所浦白亜紀史料館)where it will be exhibit. Pr. Hirose was very enthusiast about the fossil as even if it was broken in half, it wasn't weathered and in good condition. I will be honest with you I went to the museum and donated the specimen for fame and money, I was expecting journalists from every corner of the Japan waiting for me, but instead I only get a thank you... On a more serious note, in fact as Anomotodon mentioned in his post, older heterodontus tooth have been discovered in Japan but aren't described yet. I didn't helped science with my discovery but I helped at least an awesome museum by giving them a nice piece to show. And that is enough for me. 1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~〇~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Warmest greetings from Kumamoto、 Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 13 hours ago, David in Japan said: Thank you all. Some feedback of what happened at the museum. The fossil has been donated to the Natural History Museum of Goshoura (御所浦白亜紀史料館)where it will be exhibit. Pr. Hirose was very enthusiast about the fossil as even if it was broken in half, it wasn't weathered and in good condition. I will be honest with you I went to the museum and donated the specimen for fame and money, I was expecting journalists from every corner of the Japan waiting for me, but instead I only get a thank you... On a more serious note, in fact as Anomotodon mentioned in his post, older heterodontus tooth have been discovered in Japan but aren't described yet. I didn't helped science with my discovery but I helped at least an awesome museum by giving them a nice piece to show. And that is enough for me. Indeed! Bravo, sir! Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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