Mykkhul97 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I have about a hundred pounds of what I believe to be fossilized coral and sea plants. Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Hi, in your two first photos and in the last one i see blocks of calcite. Does it fizz with vinegar ? "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykkhul97 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 I just tested it and yes it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 The specimen has a botryoidal outer layer. Which part reacts to vinegar? " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykkhul97 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 Here are more pics. The first two is the top and bottom. Looks like a remnant of a shell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykkhul97 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 I tested the first 2 and the fizz came from the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Were the specimens found in cave? " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 The whiter/clear areas look like botryoidal chalcedony, which can have calcite associated with it. See if those areas will scratch with a knife. Where were these found? 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykkhul97 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 I scraped hard with a knife and you barely could see anything. I found them in a 5 gallon bucket in a barn. Almost every piece has the white sections. Some look like bubbles and some have mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykkhul97 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, abyssunder said: Were the specimens found in cave? I don't know. I found them in a 5 gallon bucket in a barn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I don't see any coral here but the whitish chunks remind me of Tampa Bay chalcedony with the botryoidal bubbles and crystals. (see examples below 1) crystals 2) with botryoidal bubbles cut in half) The 3rd one looks like a nodule concretion, pretty cool. Like the others said, we need a location for a proper ID and measurements would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykkhul97 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 Some have what looks like mouths and on coral reefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 My first thought was agate, that was the reason for my first question. 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykkhul97 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Bronzviking said: I don't see any coral here but the whitish chunks remind me of Tampa Bay chalcedony with the botryoidal bubbles and crystals. (see examples below 1) crystals 2) with botryoidal bubbles cut in half) The 3rd one looks like a nodule concretion, pretty cool. Like the others said, we need a location for a proper ID and measurements would help. The people I got these from said Arizona. Some are the size of baseball's, golf balls and quarters. They all look alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 They are chalcedony / agate. This is a common type of rock found throughout the western US (and many other places). Usually associated with volcanic rock. 2 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, ynot said: They are chalcedony / agate. This is a common type of rock found throughout the western US (and many other places). Usually associated with volcanic rock. So, I wasn't wrong on this. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I agree with ynot they are white chalcedony found in Arizona. Do a google image search for Arizona Chalcedony and you will see many examples on what you have. The pieces you say have mouths are called chalcedony desert roses. (see below) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Chalcedony forms from watery silica gels at relatively low temperatures. The silica is often released by the weathering of rocks that are initially void of silica, for example basalt, and accordingly the formation of chalcedony took place very near to the surface. Chalcedony can be found in weathering volcanic rocks, but also in sedimentary ones, often together with agate. In igneous or metamorphic rocks chalcedony is very rare and only forms veins in cracks that have been percolated by warm rising silica-rich brines. Occasionally chalcedony is found as a petrifying agent in fossils. Here's a good link if you want to read about it. http://www.quartzpage.de/chalcedony.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 " Agate is a variety of chalcedony characterized by either transparency or color patterns, such as multi-colored curved or angular banding. Opaque varieties are sometimes referred to as jasper.[3] Fire agate shows iridescent phenomena on a brown background; iris agate shows exceptional iridescence when light (especially pinpointed light) is shone through the stone. Landscape agate is chalcedony with a number of different mineral impurities making the stone resemble landscapes. " - Wikipedia / Chalcedony " In the formation of an ordinary agate, it is probable that waters containing silica in solution—derived, perhaps, from the decomposition of some of the silicates in the lava itself—percolated through the rock and deposited a siliceous gel in the interior of the vesicles. Variations in the character of the solution or in the conditions of deposition may cause a corresponding variation in the successive layers, so that bands of chalcedony often alternate with layers of crystalline quartz. Several vapour-vesicles may unite while the rock is still viscous, and thus form a large cavity which may become the home of an agate of exceptional size; thus a Brazilian geode lined with amethyst and weighing 35 tons was exhibited at the Düsseldorf Exhibition of 1902. Perhaps the most comprehensive review of agate chemistry is a recent text by Moxon cited below. " - Wikipedia / Agate 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykkhul97 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Bronzviking said: I agree with ynot they are white chalcedony found in Arizona. Do a google image search for Arizona Chalcedony and you will see many examples on what you have. The pieces you say have mouths are called chalcedony desert roses. (see below) Ok. Thank you for the information. So some of the pieces has imprints of patterns possibly from plants. Is that common to find both chalcedony with fossils? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, Mykkhul97 said: Ok. Thank you for the information. So some of the pieces has imprints of patterns possibly from plants. Is that common to find both chalcedony with fossils? No. There are no imprints or fossils found in this type of agate deposit. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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