Amber Fluid Neutral Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Although lizards are prime material for fakers, i think this tail is authentic. It is an unusial cast fossil. Kind of like a ghost form. It seems that the tail became detached. Much like they do today. This is cenomanian age amber. From Myanmar kachin state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Looks like skin, rather than an actual tail. 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 dazawagnerstanleybauergrimaldi (1,3 MB) Sci Adv. 2016 Mar; 2(3): e1501080. Published online 2016 Mar 4. doi: [10.1126/sciadv.1501080] PMCID: PMC4783129 PMID: 26973870 Mid-Cretaceous amber fossils illuminate the past diversity of tropical lizards Juan D. Daza,1,* Edward L. Stanley,2,3 Philipp Wagner,4 Aaron M. Bauer,5 and David A. Grimaldi6 Author information Article notes Copyright and License information Disclaimer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFOOLEY Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Tail skin. @Amber Man "I am glad I shall never be young without wild country to be young in. Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?" ~Aldo Leopold (1887-1948) New Mexico Museum of Natural History Bulletins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Fluid Neutral Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Its a hollow cylinder in the shape of a tail. I guess this is how some of these lizards are preserved. Look online for pictures of these types. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFOOLEY Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, doushantuo said: dazawagnergrimaldi Now there is lizards in amber. 1 "I am glad I shall never be young without wild country to be young in. Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?" ~Aldo Leopold (1887-1948) New Mexico Museum of Natural History Bulletins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I think it's most likely shed skin. It's easy to picture them needing a little sticky help getting that last section started. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Yes, a tail slough, I think. Very nice indeed. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indominus rex Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Definitely lizard shed skin. Life started in the ocean. And so did my interest in fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Fluid Neutral Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Thanks. It is likely a skin tube then. What type of lizard? This is cretaceous age. The oldest found in amber. Did lizards have the ability to detach tails back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 28 minutes ago, Amber Fluid Neutral said: Did lizards have the ability to detach tails back then? In this case, it isn't a tail detachment but a skin shedding. There are a few academic papers that discuss reptile skin fragments in Cretaceous amber. 3 ...How to Philosophize with a Hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I agree that it is mostly likely a shed but lizards are know from there for which the bones, for whatever bizarre taphonomic reason, have either disappeared or become invisible. Check this lizard ghost out: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 And, bizarrely, it's feet still seem to be solid! Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Fluid Neutral Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 That is what I was saying. I saw this one before. Well either way. The scale pattern and shape are preserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 57 minutes ago, Carl said: for whatever bizarre taphonomic reason, have either disappeared or become invisible. Maybe they were nearly transparent to begin with ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 55 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said: And, bizarrely, it's feet still seem to be solid! Exactly! And you can see it's humeri and at least one femur! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Rockwood said: Maybe they were nearly transparent to begin with ? Bones and guts and all?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Carl said: Bones and guts and all?! Fish do it fairly often, don't they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Here another one: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, Rockwood said: Fish do it fairly often, don't they ? I guess nothing's impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Carl said: Here another one: This shot makes me wonder if the see through look is maybe more illusion that actual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 You have a really nice specimen! 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Rockwood said: I think it's most likely shed skin. It's easy to picture them needing a little sticky help getting that last section started. Problem. I've been studying a snake skin shed. The scales are concave because the skin is inside out, and the head is split into two sections for some way from the tip. This tail seems to have convex scales and the anterior end is purse stringed looking instead of split. It's become easy to see a bird plucking away the body of a trapped animal or dropping the tail in pursuit of the animal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Fluid Neutral Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Thanks guys. Worth the 135 dollars or no? Are you allowed to discuss values? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoNoel Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I really don't know about the values and I'll leave that up to you. But is it possible that the transparency is from the internal bacteria of the lizard digesting the actual body after it had become encased in resin? That could explain why it only appears to be an impression of the body (while there also appears to be a few of the bones scattered on the inside) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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