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Dear friends can you help me with this? I went last week end to Rmah city ,the area is Cretaceous, Aruma Formation.the fossil was a surface find (tooth like.) is 6 cm long and 3.5 cm wide, what could it be ?

 

 

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an other possibility is Pinna sp. a bivalve.

 

 

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Not a tooth, as there is no enamel or bone/root textures.

Looks like a bivalve steinkern to me.

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2 hours ago, Manticocerasman said:

...Pinna sp. a bivalve.

Agreed.

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3 hours ago, Manticocerasman said:

an other possibility is Pinna sp. a bivalve.

 

 

Do you have any similar specimens to compare? I find that the specimen in the OP is surprisingly round for a Pinna shell... 

 

3 hours ago, drbush said:

there wasn’t any colons or reef like structures , it was a surface find 

I don't think that this necessarily rules out rudists. Sometimes a single specimen could be found separated from the rest of the reef (by ocean currents or something like that). I don't know enough about rudists to know whether that is possible or not, but it does seem like a rather logical explanation to me. 

Plus, I think @FranzBernhard has more than once found amazing rudist fossils that weren't in their home reef anymore. 

 

For now I'm in the rudist camp... :headscratch:

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Thats a difficult one!

Looks somewhat like a rudist steinkern, the groove  could be the imprint of a pillar, perhaps the L-pillar, so it could be a radiolitid steinkern. But I am not sure, the view from above is somewhat strange for a rudist.

Some kind of Pinna? Could be, they can have weird shapes. For example, the Caenozoic Pinna tetragona has a rhombic cross section. Is this groove on both sides of the steinkerns (I don´t think so, judging from one of the figures)?

Yes, there is no reef structure necessary to have some rudists. Some rudists like it to be colonial and build some kinds of reef-like structures (which can be broken up later on), some like it to be solitary.

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My first thought was Pinna sp.  They are very worn and incomplete (which may be why they seem more "round" than you would expect) but the pseudoligament (groove) is what gives it away (for me anyway ;)). Here is a sample of the Turonian Pinna...

 

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...local to my stomping grounds. 

 

 

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  • drbush changed the title to Rudist steinkern

All the specimens in question are bivalves. It will be hard to make a distinguishing between a rudist or a Pinnidae considering the actual preservation status. Having the specimens in hand, I could give a quick answer. Unfortunately I'm too far from them.

Can we have a photo with those four specimens showing their opposite side?

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