FrostbyteFossils Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 During a trip I purchased a container of small marine fossils. I could identify almost all of them except for a few. Age, location, etc. unknown. Does anyone know what they could be? P.S. feel free to ask for more pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostbyteFossils Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 The second one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostbyteFossils Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 The third one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostbyteFossils Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 The fourth one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 10 hours ago, FrostbyteFossils said: The third one This one is a cephalopod of some kind. I can’t tell if it is a type of orthoceras or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 10 hours ago, FrostbyteFossils said: The fourth one This also looks like it could be a type of cephalopod, but I don’t know which. May we see the wider end straight down on the end? Can you see a siphuncle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostbyteFossils Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, KimTexan said: This also looks like it could be a type of cephalopod, but I don’t know which. May we see the wider end straight down on the end? Can you see a siphuncle? Are these the right angles? I dont see a siphuncle, perhaps you can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 No I am not seeing one, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a cephalopod. However I have never seen a cephalopod with wide bands like that without suture lines. So I am wondering if it could be a sponge of some sort. I was also wondering if 1 & 2 might be sponge fragments too. Sponges and corals can have hollow rod shaped features. However corals are generally more structured and have a pattern whereas sponges can be less structured. There is a thread on here of something like “Show is your sponges” probably not exact title, but there are many pictures in that thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostbyteFossils Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, KimTexan said: No I am not seeing one, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a cephalopod. However I have never seen a cephalopod with wide bands like that without suture lines. So I am wondering if it could be a sponge of some sort. I was also wondering if 1 & 2 might be sponge fragments too. Sponges and corals can have hollow rod shaped features. However corals are generally more structured and have a pattern whereas sponges can be less structured. There is a thread on here of something like “Show is your sponges” probably not exact title, but there are many pictures in that thread. Ok thanks ill have a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepTimeIsotopes Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, FrostbyteFossils said: Ok thanks ill have a look 45 minutes ago, KimTexan said: There is a thread on here of something like “Show is your sponges” probably not exact title, but there are many pictures in that thread. I think this is the thread you’re referring to: 1 Each dot is 50,000,000 years: Hadean............Archean..............................Proterozoic.......................................Phanerozoic........... Paleo......Meso....Ceno.. Ꞓ.OSD.C.P.Tr.J.K..Pg.NgQ< You are here Doesn't time just fly by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 My guesses agree with the above, mostly. 1. A colonial coral. 2. A piece of petrified wood. 3. and 4. Orthoconic nautiloids, we have very similar ones from the Devonian here in Morocco. 3 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I agree wholeheartedly with Adam. I've no doubt that that last one is not a sponge but rather a nautiloid as first suggested. 2 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimTexan Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I thought 2 looked like petrified palm wood, but since he said they were marine environment I was unsure. Granted we find petrified wood in the North Sulfur River all the time and it is a marine environment. 7 hours ago, Tidgy's Dad said: 3. and 4. Orthoconic nautiloids, we have very similar ones from the Devonian here in Morocco. Do you know what genus #4 would fall under? I originally thought orthoconic in shape, but believe it is something other than Orthocerace because of the shape of what looks like annulosiphonate and episeptal deposits seen here. But maybe I am reading too much into the dark lines. They don’t seem to be symmetrical like I would expect them to be in an Orthoceras. So maybe they’re just mineral deposits. It seems like they are indicative of septa and siphuncle somehow though. Since I am unfamiliar with orthoconic cephalopods in general I can’t interpret the lines. Maybe it is something along the lines of Pleurorthocerace. They have broader chambers. Whatever the case it doesn’t appear to be a Cretaceous cephalopod, but from an earlier period. I live where the Cretaceous is dominant and we don’t have Orthocerid cephalopods here. We have baculites, ammonites and nautili. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, KimTexan said: I thought 2 looked like petrified palm wood, but since he said they were marine environment I was unsure. Granted we find petrified wood in the North Sulfur River all the time and it is a marine environment. Do you know what genus #4 would fall under? I originally thought orthoconic in shape, but believe it is something other than Orthocerace because of the shape of what looks like annulosiphonate and episeptal deposits seen here. But maybe I am reading too much into the dark lines. They don’t seem to be symmetrical like I would expect them to be in an Orthoceras. So maybe they’re just mineral deposits. It seems like they are indicative of septa and siphuncle somehow though. Since I am unfamiliar with orthoconic cephalopods in general I can’t interpret the lines. Maybe it is something along the lines of Pleurorthocerace. They have broader chambers. Whatever the case it doesn’t appear to be a Cretaceous cephalopod, but from an earlier period. I live where the Cretaceous is dominant and we don’t have Orthocerid cephalopods here. We have baculites, ammonites and nautili. Just mineral deposits , I think. I couldn't say what genus, the common one that comes out of Morocco is Geisonoceras, Orthoceras is only found in the Baltic area, but there are so many similar forms. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 The third one might be a Baculite. The narrow end pattern looks similar to those of the specimens below. picture from here 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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