ober Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 This impression and partial exoskeleton is slightly larger than a postage stamp. It is from a Mancos shale deposit outside of Moab, between the city and Rt 70. I’m unsure of the words to use, but it looks like there was a central back carpace with a skirt around it. ID help much appreciated. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 I am thinking possibly a bi-valve of some sort? 4 I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Welcome to the Forum from Florida. I'm not familiar with your deposit. What state and part of the state was it found? (ex, SW Florida) I agree with Darktooth, it looks like a right and left valve of an eroded shell showing the hinge in the middle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 Thank you for looking. It is from outside Moab in Utah, on BLM land. The Utah Roadside Geology book ID's this as Cretaceous and a local referred to it as Mancos shale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 here is another picture. it looks like above what might be a back carpace is a smaller element that might be a head. Would a bi-valve have that type of center carpace type element?we are looking at this fro. the under side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 This is the shell of a clam (bivalve) that has partly eroded away. The hinge is in the middle and You can see both shells (sides of the clam). It is not a "carapace" of any type. 3 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 thank you for taking a look and id-ing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Here's an example of a butterflied seashell bivalve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 oh, this is helpful. thanks. i didn’t see this in my fossil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Probably you call the valves - "carapaces". What you have is the inside of a bivalve with the valves opened out. This is how a bivalve may look with closed valves seen from exterior: picture from here 3 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Maybe @PFOOLEY will have some ideas, although bivalve is looking good. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 This diagram is very helpful and allows me to see how this can be a bivalve. It also clarifies what a bivalve is, in what are the 'bi' parts. Thanks for your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFOOLEY Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 @ober, compare your specimen with the genus Mytiloides. 1 "I am glad I shall never be young without wild country to be young in. Of what avail are forty freedoms without a blank spot on the map?" ~Aldo Leopold (1887-1948) New Mexico Museum of Natural History Bulletins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Thank you. You suggestion led me to a number of new to me sites, including the cretaceous atlas of ancient life. This helped me identify a number of other unknowns I have. I appreciate your response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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