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A lot from Buttenheim to identify


Kasia

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Dear TFF members,

 

I have bought a lot of fossils from Buttenheim, Germany, Lias epsilon. The seller said that there are bones and teeth, but there were no labels attached, so I need to ID them :)

The first one comprises belemnites and? Brachiopods? Belemnite is 8 cm, potential brachiopods - 2, 3 cm in diameter.

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Then a piece with a paddle bone of Ichtiozaur? Potential paddle bone 1x1.5 cm.

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A bivalve? 1 cm

 

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A single vert - could be of Ichtiozaur? 6cm in diameter

 

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Then several pieces with teeth - of what? The smallest one is 0.5 cm, the biggest - 1.3 cm.

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Two pieces with bones? 3.5 cm and 4 .5 cm.

 

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A piece of bone? 6 x 6 cm

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The other side

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And a large specimen with verts, bones and belemnites. 15 x 9 cm

 

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The belemnites are probably Passaloteuthis.

The verts and teeth look ichthyosaur to me, the paddle bone seems a good id, the other bones are probably also Ichthyosaur but it's not a certainty. 

Nice acquisitions! :) 

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27 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

The belemnites are probably Passaloteuthis.

The verts and teeth look ichthyosaur to me, the paddle bone seems a good id, the other bones are probably also Ichthyosaur but it's not a certainty. 

Nice acquisitions! :) 

Thanks :)

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18 minutes ago, Rockwood said:

The piece directly over the belemnite in the top photo looks very gastropodish to me.

Thanks.

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May be the ichtyosaurian aTemnodontosaurus?
May be there different species of belemnites, like Acrocoelites, Dactyloteuthis, Passaloteuthis?

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29 minutes ago, abyssunder said:

May be the ichtyosaurian aTemnodontosaurus?
May be there different species of belemnites, like Acrocoelites, Dactyloteuthis, Passaloteuthis?

Thank you.

Any ideas on these two?

 

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18 minutes ago, Kasia said:

Any ideas on these two?

They look like bivalves or brachiopods, to me.
Maybe the second one is a pectinid.

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4 minutes ago, abyssunder said:

They look like bivalves or brachiopods, to me.
Maybe the second one is a pectinid.

Thank you :)

 

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Nice pieces :) Congrats!!

All those bones seems to be Ichthyosaur bones. I need more detailed pictures of the teeth to ID them but mostly they look like croc teeth (Steneosaurus sp.).

Recently you could find there many bones and teeth in a "Bonebed", so your pieces seems to come from this Bonebed.

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Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils :)

Regards Sebastian

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18 hours ago, belemniten said:

Nice pieces :) Congrats!!

All those bones seems to be Ichthyosaur bones. I need more detailed pictures of the teeth to ID them but mostly they look like croc teeth (Steneosaurus sp.).

Recently you could find there many bones and teeth in a "Bonebed", so your pieces seems to come from this Bonebed.

Thanks :) I'm glad I got them, because "vert-wise" my collection is not very rich.

 

I attach larger pictures of teeth - but this is as good as it gets, because I'm taking pictures with my phone :(

 

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Thanks for the pictures!!

The first one could be Ichthyosaur but the picture is a bit blurry :(

And the second and the third should be crocodile (Steneosaurus).

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Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils :)

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10 hours ago, belemniten said:

Thanks for the pictures!!

The first one could be Ichthyosaur but the picture is a bit blurry :(

And the second and the third should be crocodile (Steneosaurus).

Thanks a lot :) that's really cool :dinothumb:

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On 1.1.2019 at 6:28 PM, Kasia said:

 

 

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The 2 belemnites on the right here appear to be Dactyloteuthis irregularis, the one on the left Acrocoelites sp. as is the one in your very first photo. The middle one is too broken to be identified. There is quite a community of belemnites to be found at Mistelgau. Dozens of species have been identified.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Ludwigia said:

The 2 belemnites on the right here appear to be Dactyloteuthis irregularis, the one on the left Acrocoelites sp. as is the one in your very first photo. The middle one is too broken to be identified. There is quite a community of belemnites to be found at Mistelgau. Dozens of species have been identified.

 

 

Thanks for help :)

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