daves64 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I recently bought some Lee Creek spoils matrix from @PaleoRon & have been digging through it here & there. This morning among the usual teeth, mouth plates & vertebrae I found this. No idea what it is. Sort of small.. 4 mm x 5 mm in size with one side covered with rings. Any ideas? The backside is just lumpy more than anything. Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Fish mouth plate or some sort of osteoderm maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrophyseter Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Probs a stretch, but imo I feel like it could be a bunch of imprints of some sort. The object minus the markings appears to be to be geological or metallic... If you're a fossil nut from Palos Verdes, San Pedro, Redondo Beach, or Torrance, feel free to shoot me a PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Drum fish mouth plate, Pogonias sp. I think! 4 Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 52 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said: Drum fish mouth plate, Pogonias sp. I think! I was thinking the same thing, but it's very thin & I don't think the mouth plates are thin. Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilsAnonymous Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 @daves64 There is always the possibility of crocodile scutes, I have seen some from there. Of course @Tidgy's Dad may be right because I found a broken drum mouthplate with one drum tooth in it (there is only a fragmented part) and I have a friend who has found 3-4 complete ones. When they don’t have teeth in them they look very similar. 1 On The Hunt For The Trophy Otodus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilsAnonymous Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Now that I’m looking at it better the back side says croc scute. 2 On The Hunt For The Trophy Otodus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 41 minutes ago, FossilsAnonymous said: Now that I’m looking at it better the back side says croc scute. Well, if it is, it's a first for me. I have at least one small partial drum fish plate w/o teeth plus a couple others that have teeth that are similiar to a drum fish (I need to find them in my containers & take pics of them). But a croc scute with rings? Fancy croc. lol 2 Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilsAnonymous Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 @daves64 wrasse mouth plate instead of croc scute? On The Hunt For The Trophy Otodus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) maybe fish pharyngeal tooth plate Here are some nice examples of tiny pharyngeal plates at a right scale to compare to, from Julianna's collection . Edited January 2, 2019 by abyssunder 3 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilsAnonymous Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 hours ago, abyssunder said: maybe fish pharyngeal tooth plate Here are some nice examples of tiny pharyngeal plates at a right scale to compare to, from Julianna's collection . Seems too thick. Daves64 said that in one of his other posts. On The Hunt For The Trophy Otodus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Share Posted January 3, 2019 13 hours ago, abyssunder said: maybe fish pharyngeal tooth plate Here are some nice examples of tiny pharyngeal plates at a right scale to compare to, from Julianna's collection . I have a couple small examples of that type as well. Here's a better pic of the surface (sort of). I changed out the lens cap from a notched black for a solid white. Also an edge on view to show how thin it is. Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Thank you for the photos. I'll remain in the pharyngeal tooth plate vs. croc scute. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, abyssunder said: Thank you for the photos. I'll remain in the pharyngeal tooth plate vs. croc scute. Me too! Iv'e seen so many of these... the one in OP's photo is just all worn down to the rims of what once were teeth. Julianna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, old bones said: the one in OP's photo is just all worn down to the rims of what once were teeth. That's what was in my mind. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Thanks! Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crocophile Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I agree. A croc scute does not feature a ridge around each pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I also agree... it is certainly not a croc scute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I agree with bony fish pharyngeal tooth plate . Marco Sr. "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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