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Far back into the Sacramento Mountains


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A daylong venture into the back canyons of the Sacramento Mountains to look for minerals and fossils. From the trailhead & back was just under 9 miles and lots of rock scrambling through Ordovician-Pennsylvanian formations.

 

A dryfall requiring a climb around

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Overhang with rippled sandstone floor having iron concretions

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A view back down hill partway to summit

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Horn corals

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Maybe coral?

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Summit view

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Shells

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Root fossils? Something else?

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Coral? Favistina Stellata? Or just natures trick of latticework of crystallized chambers?

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Band of limonite on want-to-be marble?

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Hematite specimen

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The "Root fossils" look like orthocone cephalopods, to me. 

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And the "maybe coral" is a compound coral, maybe from the family Lithostrotionidae. 

And the shells look like brachiopods, productids, I think. 

Lovely photos! :)

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What formation (or formations) are you searching?  The brachiopods look Mississippian or Pennsylvanian to me.  Orthoconic cephalopods are rare in either period in New Mexico.  There are Favestina corals in the Montoya Formation (Ordovician), but that does not match the lithology of the outcrops you showed.  Also I don't think the preservation of that specimen provides enough detail for an ID beyond "tabulate coral".

 

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The scenic surroundings were worth it even if you didn't find anything.

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10 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said:

What formation (or formations) are you searching?  The brachiopods look Mississippian or Pennsylvanian to me.  Orthoconic cephalopods are rare in either period in New Mexico.  There are Favestina corals in the Montoya Formation (Ordovician), but that does not match the lithology of the outcrops you showed.  Also I don't think the preservation of that specimen provides enough detail for an ID beyond "tabulate coral".

 

Don

Yes! My mistake. I started out in Ordovician (El Paso - Montoya - Valmont), then Silurian, Devonian...found this on my return leg before dropping into the alluvial deposits. A closer shot.

 

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26 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

The "Root fossils" look like orthocone cephalopods, to me. 

Thank you for the ID! I was in what was called the Caballero Formation when I found the specimens. Based on what you wrote I did find an online paper on "The Discovery and Significance of Cephalopod Fauna in the Mississippian Caballero Formation of New Mexico.  The photo plates in the paper are striking similar.

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I can't decide which is the cake and which is the icing, between your scene shots and the fossils! Someday I might make it to the Land of Enchantment myself...

Were you able to collect some of the fossils or were they all stuck in place?

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Rolling hills and craggy outcrops sounds like my kind of landscape.:D Nice pics and finds!

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2 hours ago, Wrangellian said:

I can't decide which is the cake and which is the icing, between your scene shots and the fossils! Someday I might make it to the Land of Enchantment myself...

Were you able to collect some of the fossils or were they all stuck in place?

This was more of a 'Search&Record' locations mission and I didn't know how difficult this hike was going to be so I hiked light (no tools to extract specimens with). It was Class 3 mountaineering towards the summit of this hike so I was glad to not be rucking an overly heavy bag for no reason. Too much pack weight can make it dodgy if it is challenging terrain.

 

It turned out to be a really productive hike and I have coordinates for the specimens I want to return for such as cephalopods and coral. Hopefully, I can concentrate the search range to the Ordovician and lower Mississippian formations. I was just blasting through the area and a slower more focused search might yield more types of specimens.

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I hear ya, but, no matter the terrain, I would be tempted to carry a bag with a bit of packing material in the off change that I found something I absolutely had to pick up - that was good enough and small enough to do so. The GPS thing is a good alternative, though! (I don't have one)

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7 minutes ago, Wrangellian said:

I hear ya, but, no matter the terrain, I would be tempted to carry a bag with a bit of packing material in the off change that I found something I absolutely had to pick up - that was good enough and small enough to do so. The GPS thing is a good alternative, though! (I don't have one)

I know what you mean! I did pack small towels and ziplocs to protect the individual specimens I did collect. It's just my heavy duty collecting bag with hammer&chisles&small shovel + water+food+emergency supplies+50ft of rope is pushing 35lbs without specimens....then, add in 30-50lbs of specimens and I am definitely feeling it. This was part of my down climb and that day I was glad to be canyoneering with a lighter pack. I am climbing solo so I need to take precautions or it could be a long time before someone finds my carcass.

 

A view down the chute

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Looking back at chute 

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Until I started marking spots with GPS I was definitely having a low success rate at finding specimens on return trips. When I do haul out loaded packs I lower the pack down such climbs using my rope rather than down climb with the pack on which would certainly result in a bad ending.

 

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3 hours ago, Kato said:

I know what you mean! I did pack small towels and ziplocs to protect the individual specimens I did collect. It's just my heavy duty collecting bag with hammer&chisles&small shovel + water+food+emergency supplies+50ft of rope is pushing 35lbs without specimens....then, add in 30-50lbs of specimens and I am definitely feeling it.

 

In a case like that I guess you could at least carry out the best 10lbs or so of fossils...

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7 hours ago, Kato said:

This was more of a 'Search&Record' locations mission

What a nice and productive prospecting trip! Thanks for taking us along with you!
Franz Bernhard

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Thank you for the nice report! I envy you when I look at your sunny pics. When I look out the window all I see is snow. 

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