dolevfab Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I have found this thing in a campanian marine phosphate deposit. It came along with fish and shark teeth. It looks like some kind of tooth, but I have no idea. The brown area is translucent and looks like enamel. Although the grey is thicker and sharp. Any experts on cretaceous fish would be welcome Ps. This is definately not just a rock, I am fairly familiar with this deposit and can judge a rock from a fossil. Could anybody I'd this please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Can you state where this was from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Also can you give us good measurements on this. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomotodon Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 It is a Hadrodus bony fish pharyngeal tooth, here is an image of one from Menuha formation (Israel, taken from Wikipedia) 11 The Tooth Fairy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomotodon Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Not sure what the object on the left is though, could be a piece of another Hadrodus too The Tooth Fairy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Definitely a pycnodont pharyngeal tooth but I wouldn't risk assigning a genus to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolevfab Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, sixgill pete said: Also can you give us good measurements on this. 4 cm long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolevfab Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Anomotodon said: It is a Hadrodus bony fish pharyngeal tooth, here is an image of one from Menuha formation (Israel, taken from Wikipedia) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 @Anomotodon @Carl @dolevfab At 4 cm (1.575 inches) that would be an extremely large pharyngeal tooth. I think it is a piece of something. 1 Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 It reminds me of a gill raker. But that would be a huge one. 1 Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 @Al Dente @Plax @MarcoSr Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It looks like Hadrodus/Stephanodus to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Al Dente said: It looks like Hadrodus/Stephanodus to me. Even at 4 centimetres? Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 4cm seems a little big. Here’s another big one-http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/63560-claw-north-texas-eagle-ford/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Well, you live and learn. I would never had expected a pharyngeal tooth to be this large. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 12 hours ago, Al Dente said: It looks like Hadrodus/Stephanodus to me. 12 hours ago, sixgill pete said: @Al Dente @Plax @MarcoSr Don I was thinking Hadrodus/Stephanodus like Eric. However, I've never seen a Hadrodus/Stephanodus pharyngeal tooth at 4 cm (those two specimens in that TFF post aren't 4 cm). So a pycnodont pharyngeal tooth from a large species that we just don't see here in the US. Marco Sr. 2 "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Yeah, pycnodont seems to be what that is. Giants exist. I once saw a Paraorthacodus tooth that was about one-third larger than any other one I'd seen before. And what about Northern Shark's giant Carcharoides tooth? The other specimen might be a piece of another one though it seems flatter so that might be a piece of a sawfish rostral spine. Jess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-fossils Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 First thing I thought of was Eotrigonodon (E. serratus occurs in the Lede Sand Formation, in the Eocene of Belgium). The exact shape doesn't fit with E. serratus but I could see it going with maybe another Eotrigonodon or another closely-related fish. Even though it's giant in size, I'm still sticking with fish pharyngeal tooth. The Eotrigonodon is not a pycnodont, it's from the Tetraodontiformes. Perhaps that's another place to look at for a genus/species answer for this specimen. 2 Max Derème "I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day." - Mary Anning >< Remarkable Creatures, Tracy Chevalier Instagram: @world_of_fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/4/2019 at 1:25 PM, dolevfab said: I have found this thing in a campanian marine phosphate deposit. It came along with fish and shark teeth. It looks like some kind of tooth, but I have no idea. The brown area is translucent and looks like enamel. Although the grey is thicker and sharp. Any experts on cretaceous fish would be welcome Ps. This is definately not just a rock, I am fairly familiar with this deposit and can judge a rock from a fossil. Could anybody I'd this please? Am liking that you've said "definitely not just a rock". We get a lot of "just a rock" IDs here on the forum but hope that no one would say that for such a distinctive fossil. Agree with Al Dente on the ID. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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