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I found these fossil in Texas and not sure what they are or which species they belong too.  Please help me identify them.  Thanks.

 

1. I found this in Kiamichi formation in Fort Worth, Texas.  I think it is fragment of turtle shells but I am not sure.

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2. also on Kiamichi formation, Fort Worth, Texas, I found this ammonite, please let me know which species it belong too.  Thanks.

 

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3. and the echinoid is also at the same place.  Which species is it?

 

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4. I also found this at Duck Creek Formation in Fort Worth Texas which I don't know what it is

 

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Thank you.

 

 

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Hi, the last ones might be burrows infilleds.

Duck Creek is cretaceous.

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You also can have a look here, or here.

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1. Some sort of concretion.

2. Mortoniceras.

3. Epiaster whitei.

4. Infilled burrows. 

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I agree with a kind of Mortoniceras

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For the urchin i propose macraster.

And your shark tooth is too worn, but maybe @Al Dente or @Harry Pristis will chime in.

Could you also give the size of your items ? The american dollar doesn't "speak" to me.:)

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Shark tooth looks like a Hemipristis serra (snaggle tooth shark) 

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1 hour ago, OwlEyes said:

  I think it is fragment of turtle shells but I am not sure.

I think this is a valve of a rudist (clam).

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2 hours ago, fifbrindacier said:

For the urchin i propose macraster.

And your shark tooth is too worn, but maybe @Al Dente or @Harry Pristis will chime in.

Could you also give the size of your items ? The american dollar doesn't "speak" to me.:)

I don't know where that shark tooth come from.  I didn't have it or post it, it just show up.  I removed it.

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2 hours ago, ynot said:

I think this is a valve of a rudist (clam).

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I think it's a bivalve, i don't see the three column patterns you often can see in rudists, but it's not well preserved. Maybe a kind of oyster ?

 

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Number one is likely the internal cast of the bivalve, Cyprimeria.  This one looks like a partial infilling of the shell on one side.

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I disagre on the ammonite. There are two Morts in the Kiamichi but yours is not either one. it's one of the 10 species of Oyytropidoceras found there.

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Yes the first is s bivalve.

The ammonite is an Oxytropidoceras, a nice one at that. Mortoniceras have straight ribs and tubercles. The ribs on Oxys are curved and they don’t have tubercles.  

 

The long skinny things. The first looks like a 

Thalassinoide burrow fragment, but could be lobster if you can see fine bumps. (Not a lobster. I was looking at the little bumps on top middle, which is a piece of urchin as Dan pointed out below. I think they’re all Thalassinode burrows.) Sometimes the bumps run as a single line down the side.

 

I have not found lobster in the Duck Creek, but I have found them in the Paw Paw, which is still part of the Washita group. There is overlap within the formations of the Washita group.

The echinoids, I am not good at echinoid ID. @erose is and I thought @JohnJ was too. If I need to I can pull out my books, but let’s see if anyone I tag can help us with that. I thought @-AnThOnY- knew his echinoids. I know @Uncle Siphuncle does.

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12 minutes ago, KimTexan said:

Yes the first is s bivalve.

The ammonite is an Oxytropidoceras, a nice one at that. Mortoniceras have straight ribs and tubercles. The ribs on Oxys are curved and they don’t have tubercles.  

 

The long skinny things. The first looks like a 

Thalassinoide burrow fragment, but could be lobster if you can see fine bumps. The 2nd is a lobster appendage, very cool.

The third may also be lobster, but I am not certain I see the fine bumps, but they look like they are there. Sometimes the bumps run as a single line down the side.

 

I have not found lobster in the Duck Creek, but I have found them in the Paw Paw, which is still part of the Washita group. There is overlap within the formations of the Washita group.

The echinoids, I am not good at echinoid ID. @erose is and I thought @JohnJ was too. If I need to I can pull out my books, but let’s see if anyone I tag can help us with that. I thought @-AnThOnY- knew his echinoids. I know @Uncle Siphuncle does.

I don't think I'm seeing any lobster appendages, but rather burrows, one with a fragment from the underside of a spatangoid on it.  Not knowing locality, Hemiaster whitei is a good guess on the ech, which tends to be found in many of the same intervals as Oxys, or at least close by.

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3 minutes ago, Uncle Siphuncle said:

I don't think I'm seeing any lobster appendages, but rather burrows, one with a fragment from the underside of a spatangoid on it.  Not knowing locality, Hemiaster whitei is a good guess on the ech, which tends to be found in many of the same intervals as Oxys, or at least close by.

Look close at the top of the middle one. There is a piece of shell or carapace there still in place. Or do you think it is ancillary, and random?

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1 minute ago, KimTexan said:

Look close at the top of the middle one. There is a piece of shell or carapace there still in place. Or do you think it is ancillary, and random?

Spatangoid frag.  I'd bet a paycheck, ma'am.  The gross form lines up more with burrow as well, as the burrow is more amorphous than a lobster's body or appendages.  Nature tries to trick our eyes at times.

 

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10 minutes ago, Uncle Siphuncle said:

I don't think I'm seeing any lobster appendages, but rather burrows, one with a fragment from the underside of a spatangoid on it.  Not knowing locality, Hemiaster whitei is a good guess on the ech, which tends to be found in many of the same intervals as Oxys, or at least close by.

Ok I can believe that it’s part of an urchin stuck to it.

The lobster legs I have are straight and have a line of bumps running up the side.

I misread your comment the first time and deleted my response.

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10 hours ago, Uncle Siphuncle said:

Spatangoid frag.  I'd bet a paycheck, ma'am.  The gross form lines up more with burrow as well, as the burrow is more amorphous than a lobster's body or appendages.  Nature tries to trick our eyes at times.

 

 

Good eye seeing the ech frag in that middle one. Agreed

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