piranha Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, rew said: Okay, I flipped a coin -- heads I go back to calling this Amecephalus laticaudum. Heads it is. (That's how I do science.) A fortunate coin toss ... you are in good company following Robison, Babcock, etc. Labels can always be changed easily ... that's science! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 5:29 PM, Scylla said: Just saw this thread! Wow. I mean WOW! I hope you like it. I post my bugs, and piranha keeps proving that he's knows more about my trilobite collection than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 11:14 AM, rew said: To start off, here is a plate of Primaspis crosotus trilobites from the Kope Formation. These are itty bitty bugs, but show all the typical Ondotopleurid features -- pleural and pygidal spines all around, and fringes of short spines on the free cheeks. I must have been asleep at the wheel somehow I missed the first one you posted. In any event, better late than never! In North America Primaspis is currently classified as Meadowtownella. Conway & Botting 2012 has a thorough explanation: Conway, T.M., Botting, J.P. 2012 Description and ecology of a new Middle Ordovician (Llanvirn) odontopleurid trilobite from the Builth Inlier of Mid-Wales, with a review of the genus Meadowtownella. Geological Magazine, 149(3):397-411 PDF LINK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, rew said: I hope you like it. I post my bugs, and piranha keeps proving that he's knows more about my trilobite collection than I do. 5 hours ago, piranha said: I must have been asleep at the wheel somehow I missed the first one you posted. In any event, better late than never! In North America Primaspis is currently classified as Meadowtownella. Conway & Botting 2012 has a thorough explanation: Conway, T.M., Botting, J.P. 2012 Description and ecology of a new Middle Ordovician (Llanvirn) odontopleurid trilobite from the Builth Inlier of Mid-Wales, with a review of the genus Meadowtownella. Geological Magazine, 149(3):397-411 PDF LINK Yes, I see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 The AMNH trilobite gallery agrees that Primaspis crosotus in no longer valid, the bug is Meadowtownella crosotus now. If I didn't post my bugs here a fifth of my collection would be misidentified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I think if you have a large enough collection of anything, you're going to be spending some time changing labels. I've done enough of that myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 Trilobite of the week #67 is Ceraurus plattinensis, a Middle Ordovician cheiruid from the Bobcaygeaon Formation in Ontario. This is the Ceraurus that pumps iron, kicks sand in your face, and steals your girl friend. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, rew said: ...This is the Ceraurus that pumps iron, kicks sand in your face, and steals your girl friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted September 9, 2019 Author Share Posted September 9, 2019 Trilobite of the week #68 is Olenellus terminatus, an Early Cambrian (4th stage) bug from the Carrara Formation of Emigrant Pass, San Bernardino County, California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Trilobite of the week #70 is Encrinurus macrourus, a Silurian trilobite from the Hemse beds of Sproge, Gotland, Sweden. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 Trilobite of the week #71 is a relative of last week's Encrinurus macrourus. This is Encrinuroides capitonis, a Late Ordovician Encrinurid from the Poolville Member of the Bromide Formation in Criner Hills, Carter County, Oklahoma. The trilobite lies on a bed of brachiopods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 hours ago, rew said: Trilobite of the week #71 is a relative of last week's Encrinurus macrourus. This is Encrinuroides capitonis, a Late Ordovician Encrinurid from the Poolville Member of the Bromide Formation in Criner Hills, Carter County, Oklahoma. The trilobite lies on a bed of brachiopods. Lespérance & Desbiens reclassified Encrinuroides capitonis as: Frencrinuroides capitonis You can easily print the attached image instead of having to make a new label! Lespérance, P.J., Desbiens, S. 1995 Selected Ordovician trilobites from the Lake St.John District of Quebec and their bearing on systematics. Journal of Paleontology Memoir, 42(S69):1-19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kil'Jaeden Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 5/19/2019 at 10:43 PM, piranha said: AMNH has the correct name as Ditomopyge producta. Paladin does not have a median preoccipital lobe (termed 'praeoccipital' by Weber) which is a key feature for Ditomopyge. Additionally, the genal spines of Paladin transilis only extend to the 7th thoracic segment and for Ditomopyge producta the genal spines extend to the pygidium along with coarse granulation of the occipital ring. Originally described as Cyphinium productum var. granulata, Weber 1933. Weber, V.N. 1933 ТРИЛОБИТЫ ДОНЕЦКОГО БАССЕЙНА. [Trilobites of the Donets Basin.] ТРУДЫ: ВСЕСОЮЗНОГО ГЕОЛОГО-РАЗВЕ - ДОЧНОГО ОБЪЕДИНЕНИЯ НКТП СССР [Transactions of the United Geological and Prospecting Service of USSR] 255:1-95 Congrats on an excellent textbook specimen. Nowadays, all trilobites from Zhirnovsk (Province of Volgograd, Russian Federation) are described as Ditomopyge zhirnovskiensis Mychko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Kil'Jaeden said: Nowadays, all trilobites from Zhirnovsk (Province of Volgograd, Russian Federation) are described as Ditomopyge zhirnovskiensis Mychko Ditomopyge zhirnovskiensis is not a valid name as it has not been formally published yet. It has been described in an unpublished thesis and only mentioned in a peer reviewed paper. Mychko, E.V. 2016. Trilobites of the Middle-Upper Carboniferous and Permian of Northern Eurasia. Thesis, Moscow State University, 393 pp. Mychko, E.V. & Alekseev, A.S. 2017 Locations of middle Carboniferous-Permian trilobites in Russia and neighboring countries. Byulleten' Moskovskogo Obshchestva Ispytateley Prirody, Otdel Geologicheskiy, 92(3):40-83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kil'Jaeden Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, piranha said: Ditomopyge zhirnovskiensis is not a valid name as it has not been formally published yet. It has been described in an unpublished thesis and only mentioned in a peer reviewed paper. Mychko, E.V. 2016. Trilobites of the Middle-Upper Carboniferous and Permian of Northern Eurasia. Thesis, Moscow State University, 393 pp. Mychko, E.V. & Alekseev, A.S. 2017 Locations of middle Carboniferous-Permian trilobites in Russia and neighboring countries. Byulleten' Moskovskogo Obshchestva Ispytateley Prirody, Otdel Geologicheskiy, 92(3):40-83 May be you're right...honestly, I don't know how to check the validity of a scientific name Eduard Mychko is the only scientist who studies Permian and Carboniferous trilobites in Russia. Hope, he'll publish his descriptions in a proper way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Kil'Jaeden said: May be you're right...honestly, I don't know how to check the validity of a scientific name Eduard Mychko is the only scientist who studies Permian and Carboniferous trilobites in Russia. Hope, he'll publish his descriptions in a proper way Yes, I agree his work is exceptional and hopefully he will publish all the new species from his thesis in the near future. Mychko & Alekseev 2017: D. zhirnovskiensis is only mentioned as having been described from the thesis: "These trilobites are described in the dissertation of E.V. Mychko (2017) as Ditomopyge (Ditomopyge) zhirnovskiensis sp. nov." "Эти трилобиты описаны в диссертации Э.В. Мычко (2017) как Ditomopyge (Ditomopyge) zhirnovskiensis sp. nov." PDF LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kil'Jaeden Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, piranha said: Yes, I agree his work is exceptional and hopefully he will publish all the new species from his thesis in the near future. Mychko & Alekseev 2017: D. zhirnovskiensis is only mentioned as having been described from the thesis: "These trilobites are described in the dissertation of E.V. Mychko (2017) as Ditomopyge (Ditomopyge) zhirnovskiensis sp. nov." "Эти трилобиты описаны в диссертации Э.В. Мычко (2017) как Ditomopyge (Ditomopyge) zhirnovskiensis sp. nov." PDF LINK Thanks, I have all his papers in my library By the way, I'm only a couple of hours on this forum, but I found only several photos of Carboniferous trilobites, pygidiums mostly...are they so rare in the US or just nobody pays attention to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 Well, in this thread alone I have three complete Carboniferous trilobites (Ameropiltonia lauradanae and Comptonaspis swallowi in addition to the above Ditomopyge producta). I have a few more American Carboniferous bugs coming along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Here's the third member of the Encrinuridae in a row. Trilobite of the week #72 is Coronocephalus rex, an Early Silurian bug from the Sintan Shale of China. This is one of my favorite Silurian trilobites, with the crenulations on the high free cheeks that give the genus its name. There are long genal spines and a pair of macropleural spines, although only the left macropleural spine is clearly visible. Isolated pygidia and molts of this species are commonly available on our favorite auction site, but this bug is all about its free cheeks so you really want a complete specimen, which seem uncommon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, rew said: Here's the third member of the Encrinuridae in a row. Trilobite of the week #72 is Coronocephalus rex, an Early Silurian bug from the Sintan Shale of China. This is one of my favorite Silurian trilobites, with the crenulations on the high free cheeks that give the genus its name. There are long genal spines and a pair of macropleural spines, although only the left macropleural spine is clearly visible. Isolated pygidia and molts of this species are commonly available on our favorite auction site, but this bug is all about its free cheeks so you really want a complete specimen, which seem uncommon. This one is Coronocephalus gaoluoensis. The glabella of C. rex is more tuberculate compared to the anteriorly smooth glabella of C. gaoluoensis. Chen, G., Han, N., Luo, R. 2012. Restudy of Coronocephalus gaoluoensis Wu, 1979. Acta Palaeontologica Sinica, 50(3):284-303 Wu, H.J. 1990. On genus Coronocephalus Grabau, 1924 (Silurian Trilobite). Acta Palaeontologica Sinica, 29(5):527-547 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Do you have images of C. rex? I'd like to see just how much more tuberculate its glabella is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 8:56 AM, rew said: Do you have images of C. rex? I'd like to see just how much more tuberculate its glabella is. Yes, look again as there are 5 images of the glabella of Coronocephalus rex that I already posted above. Beside being more tuberculate, the tubercles are also considerably larger on Coronocephalus rex. Here is another example showing the difference in the larger tubercles of Coronocephalus rex. This is a typical mistake in taxonomy incorrectly sourced from the literature. The seller that you purchased it from simply misidentified the species. Zhang, W.T. 1983 On the Subfamily Coronocephalinae (Trilobita). Palaeontologia Cathayana, 1:195-258 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Okay, it looks like I have C. gaoluoensis. I'm going to run out of blank labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson g Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/24/2019 at 4:25 PM, Kil'Jaeden said: Thanks, I have all his papers in my library By the way, I'm only a couple of hours on this forum, but I found only several photos of Carboniferous trilobites, pygidiums mostly...are they so rare in the US or just nobody pays attention to them? They are rare, at least here in Missouri. 2 of the 3 species Rew named are Carboniferous proetid trilobites of Missouri. In the 4 months of searching just for trilo sweet spots around my state, I've only found 2 complete Ameropiltonia along with 4 pygidiums, 0 of any Comptonaspis, and 2 Ameura pygidiums. Of course I could just be unlucky, but I think the main census would be they are in general rare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 Yup. I don't know of any Carboniferous trilobites that would rate as common. They tend to be pretty rare, rare, really rare, or forget-about-ever-finding-one rare. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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