RocksInMyPocket Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Hey guys! New member here from Charleston. Hoping to get some help ID’ing what I think might be turtle shell pieces and another potential fossil. Found these in a creek in Summerville along with some teeth (Chandler Bridge Formation). Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Welcome to the Forum! I agree with turtle for the first two, but I have no idea what would be the other one. 1 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Welcome to the forum from Florida. Yes the first one is a nice tortoise shell and the smaller one is a turtle shell or scute. The unknown fossil could be a bivalve imprint on rock? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocksInMyPocket Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Thank you both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Welcome to the forum from Argentina. Yes, definitely the two are carapace or plastron fragments af turtle. It is likely to belong to the now-extinct Psephophorus sp turtle genus (related to the modern-day leatherback turtle). This genus was quite common during the Oligocene, 30 million years ago in Summerville. Unfortunately I have no idea what the third fragment might be, but I do not rule out the possibility of being crocodilian or whale material worn out by the action of water... 2 Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmayshun Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 turtle shell...thought you might be interested in a diagram so here you go. Nice finds. Welcome 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmayshun Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 long piece could be like a c.p.5 and the smaller piece like an edge piece, possibly like a 2 or maybe towards the back, like a 9, 10 in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 This is a good illustration of why I sometimes object to the use of the term "scute" when referring to the carapacial or plastral bones of reptiles. The illustration makes the distinction, if you study it. Notice how the scutes (the thin, keratinous [fingernail-like] plates overlap and cover the bones of the carapace. Scutes are not bones, but cover bones in a pattern that does not conform to the pattern of the bones.. For example, in the diagram vertebral scute 2 (v.s.2) covers and overlaps neural bone 2 (n.2) and parts of neural bone 1 (n.1) and neural bone 3 (n.3) as well as parts of costal plates (bones) 1, 2, and 3. Scutes and bones are not synonymous. While these bones are often preserved as fossils, the keratinous scutes are not preserved. So, it is erroneous to refer to a fossil scute. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 3:13 PM, RocksInMyPocket said: Hey guys! New member here from Charleston. Hoping to get some help ID’ing what I think might be turtle shell pieces and another potential fossil. Found these in a creek in Summerville along with some teeth (Chandler Bridge Formation). Thanks! Nice turtle finds. Can we see some additional angles/views of this unknown? Thanks. Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I suspect the turtle bones are Pleistocene and from freshwater or land turtles. A mixture of ages is common in stream finds. Can't make anything out of your last one though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, Plax said: I suspect the turtle bones are Pleistocene and from freshwater or land turtles. A mixture of ages is common in stream finds. I agree. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocksInMyPocket Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 23 hours ago, Plantguy said: Nice turtle finds. Can we see some additional angles/views of this unknown? Thanks. Regards, Chris More photos of the third one along with a photo of something similar I found in the same area. They might just be rocks, I’m a newbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 The radiating patterns might be crystal growths, maybe something similar to the ones of the "chrysanthemum stone". " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamguti Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Where exactly did you go (what creek?) to find these? I live near there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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