Jonwealden Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 This weekend i made a very lucky find, in the process of cleaning up. Photo's to follow soon. I was very emotional when i picked it up and almost at once saw it was Spinosaur. It mind sound odd ( maybe other fossil hunters may relate to this), that a minute before finding it, i had a strong feeling come across me, of something special nearby. I have identified it as the anterior part of the dentary of a Spinosaur, just before the rostrum begins. There is an eroded partial tooth showing at one end. Maybe more inside the mandibular section. A scan would confirm this. Its 9 cm long, 5.3 cm high and 2.5 cm wide (the corresponding section being a little larger than Baryonyx, which is much younger than this, 125 versus 135 MYA) As far as i know, this would be only the second Spinosaur dentary on the UK mainland, other than the Holotype Baryonyx Walkeri. The isle of Wight (115-125MYA) has had the recent discovery of two Baryonyx , which does have a partial dentary. 18 In the footsteps of Mantell and Anning, searching for dinosaur with a passion ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomotodon Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Sounds like an amazing find, can’t wait to see pictures!!! The Tooth Fairy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 This would indeed be an amazing and important discovery! Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Well done. It's a super find. Very special. The exposed tooth looks interesting. definitely Spino! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Great Googly Moogly! What an incredible find...I'm chuffed for you. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmoceras Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I look forward to the upcoming photos. This sounds special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Come on Dude, you can't post a topic like this and not have the pics ready! I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Birdman said: Well done. It's a super find. Very special. The exposed tooth looks interesting. definitely Spino! So have you seen photos, or the actual specimen? Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 That sounds pretty amazing! Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwealden Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thanks for comments guys. I just need to prep some matrix off the lingual side. But here are some images of the cleaner aspects. T = tooth tip. R = tooth remnant. Outlined is the 3cm eroded tooth. Inside the jaw section could be more teeth, of course, a scan would reveal this. A circular cavity / pneumatic can be seen under the socket cavity. On the left side (under the matrix) is the lingual Mekelian groove, shown as a bite into the edge. Two foramen. Five tooth sockets. 18 2 In the footsteps of Mantell and Anning, searching for dinosaur with a passion ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwealden Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 10 1 In the footsteps of Mantell and Anning, searching for dinosaur with a passion ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallen Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Nice find mate, well done. I was wondering if you are aware of any further updates on the the sail of the Spinosaurs? I.e. have there been any further updates on the use of the sail? The last I heard it was used for display during mating or heat regulating purposes...I wondered if it couldn't be both. When were lying in under water or swimming to catch fish beneath the surface, maybe the sail protruded out the water to regulate its temp. When out the water, the colors could help attract a mate or even determine sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrewer Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 WOW! Congratulations Jon! John Map of UK fossil sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amateur Paleontologist Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Wow! That's truly amazing Congrats on finding that!!! -Christian Opalised fossils are the best: a wonderful mix between paleontology and mineralogy! Q. Where do dinosaurs study? A. At Khaan Academy!... My ResearchGate profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SULLY Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Way cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwealden Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 Thanks guys. Vallen, i think the sail purpose was probably temperature regulation. Regarding colourful, whilst it would serve an attraction to a mate, i think bright colours on a theropod would be detrimental to its lifestyle of hunting, being made more obvious.to its prey. I think Spinosaurs didn't just stick to fishing (where the sail wouldn't be so obvious to underwater creatures) and that they were likely to go for anything do-able they could ambush ! In the footsteps of Mantell and Anning, searching for dinosaur with a passion ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Well done! Another one for the annals! Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 30/01/2019 at 2:40 AM, FossilDAWG said: So have you seen photos, or the actual specimen? Don Sorry, only just seen this. For now what it's worth, I was privileged a sneak preview of some pics. Am looking forward to seeing the specimen in the flesh....or bone...or mineral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masp Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Awesome find Jon congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haravex Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 This is amazing and such a good find have you taken this to the museum this is potentially a new species don't know if they could make a holotype out of just a partial jaw but it is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwealden Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Haravex said: This is amazing and such a good find have you taken this to the museum this is potentially a new species don't know if they could make a holotype out of just a partial jaw but it is a possibility. I have researched this for myself, yes it could be, it's over 10 million years before Walkeri. There are holotypes based on isolated teeth and this jaw could have more erupting teeth hidden inside. I'm just glad i found it before it was lost to the elements, 1 In the footsteps of Mantell and Anning, searching for dinosaur with a passion ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwealden Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 Thanks Masp, Ludwigia. Birdman. Hoping for more favourable weather to expose the beaches here, its been a very poor season. Too settled. A lot of sand cover. But hopefully windy weather will kick in in this locality soon, it's usually pretty windy ! In the footsteps of Mantell and Anning, searching for dinosaur with a passion ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapsalis Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 4:15 AM, Jonwealden said: Thanks for comments guys. I just need to prep some matrix off the lingual side. But here are some images of the cleaner aspects. T = tooth tip. R = tooth remnant. Outlined is the 3cm eroded tooth. Inside the jaw section could be more teeth, of course, a scan would reveal this. A circular cavity / pneumatic can be seen under the socket cavity. On the left side (under the matrix) is the lingual Mekelian groove, shown as a bite into the edge. Two foramen. Five tooth sockets. Wow! This is quite the amazing find! Well done, my good friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwealden Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 Thank you Zapsalis. As i wrote just now, it's been so poor here, very few exposures here this season. The worst i've known it in 20 years. I thought it was ''just'' a rib bone when i first saw it laying there on its side, then i saw the sockets and was overcome. Its my best Theropod Dinosaur find.. I hold it and think of the amazing animal it belonged to. This is what its about to me. The salvage and then sheer wonder and feeling the fossils invoke in us all as we find them and hold them. In the footsteps of Mantell and Anning, searching for dinosaur with a passion ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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