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Found out at a land site in Summerville SC so not sure what layer it came from, but was found among Megs and angustidens and a few others. Was wondering if anyone had a better guess at what species of whale this came from, my Google researching didn't really pull up anything that looked terribly close. 

 

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Is not Summerville Oligocene? If so possibly Eosqualodon sp. @Boesse The size is right. If this is Eosqualodon I would highly recommend donating this tooth to the Mace Brown Museum in Charleston. It is a relatively unknown species. Only found (so far) in a few spots in S.C. and the Belgrade Quarry in North Carolina. All known Eosqualodon teeth from NC, including mine have been donated.

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Well, you learn something new every day. I just wonder what knowledge I lost in order to make room for this. :headscratch:
 

I guess squalodon teeth are something I can look out for when I go to STH when the wet season abates here in California? Unless, of course, the accessible layers there aren't quite old enough. It seems that 15 mya should put this in the realm of the possible.

 

While investigating, I found a very nice write-up on these creatures.
Squalodon, et.. al.

 

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1 hour ago, MrR said:

Well, you learn something new every day. I just wonder what knowledge I lost in order to make room for this. :headscratch:
 

I guess squalodon teeth are something I can look out for when I go to STH when the wet season abates here in California? Unless, of course, the accessible layers there aren't quite old enough. It seems that 15 mya should put this in the realm of the possible.

 

While investigating, I found a very nice write-up on these creatures.
Squalodon, et.. al.

 

Squalodon is a whale from the Miocene and i do not believe is known from shark tooth hill. It is a relatively well known fossil. Teeth are not uncommon.

His tooth i believe is Eosqualodon. It is from the Oligocene. It is an earlier species and is relatively unknown.

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1 hour ago, MrR said:

Well, you learn something new every day. I just wonder what knowledge I lost in order to make room for this. :headscratch:
 

I guess squalodon teeth are something I can look out for when I go to STH when the wet season abates here in California? Unless, of course, the accessible layers there aren't quite old enough. It seems that 15 mya should put this in the realm of the possible.

 

While investigating, I found a very nice write-up on these creatures.
Squalodon, et.. al.

 

I do not believe that any Squalodon are found in STH. The teeth you see listed for sale as Prosqualdon are an unidentified species of Odontoceti but are not prosqualodon.

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21 hours ago, MrR said:

Well, you learn something new every day. I just wonder what knowledge I lost in order to make room for this. :headscratch:

Yup. Just doesn't seem fair does it? ;)

 

The tooth that started this topic is drool-worthy awesome. Bobby @Boesse is a busy guy and when he resurfaces on the forum I can't wait to hear his input on this tooth. Pretty cool if it is from an earlier less well known species.

 

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Hey all! Sorry for disappearing for a while; this semester has been crazy so far. So there are at least two large dolphins that this tooth could belong to: Eosqualodon as mentioned by @sixgill pete, but also a large species of Agorophius.

 

Squalodon is not known from the Oligocene of SC, and precious few Miocene exposures exist.

 

EDIT: ALSO, Squalodon is NOT found at Sharktooth Hill. And Prosqualodon has NEVER been reported from the northern hemisphere - only from Patagonia and Australia. A platanistid-like allodelphinid dolphin Zarhinocetus errabundus is known from STH, formerly classified as "Squalodon" errabundus by Kellogg (1931) based on the strange anatomy of the periotic, but actually had homodont cone-shaped teeth like most modern dolphins.

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7 minutes ago, Boesse said:

Prosqualodon has NEVER been reported from the southern hemisphere - only from Patagonia and Australia.

I thought that Patagonia and Australia are in the southern hemisphere.  Did You mean northern hemisphere?

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