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Finally made it out to the Peace River this weekend. Tammy and I spent a day canoeing down the river on Friday checking some of our favorite spots between Brownville Park and Canoe Outpost in Arcadia to see if the river was low enough to guide a group of teen/pre-teen SCUBAnauts for a fossil hunting trip on Saturday. Though the river is still about a foot higher than I'd like it to be, the group got lucky when they planned this trip some six months ago. The river gauge at Arcadia is the lowest it's been this year and still dropping--though rain is expected for Tuesday so that could put a halt to the drop if it is a heavy rain.

 

Kept a few items I would not otherwise have if I didn't need them for for a bit of fossil show-and-tell with the group before our trip on Saturday. Gave everything away but two items: a tiny laminid shark vertebra that is just a hair over 7 mm (I'm surprised it didn't pass through my 1/4" mesh sifting screen) and the other was my trip-maker as it is something of a mystery and a novel find for me. It appears to be a fully-rooted mammal incisor about 2" (52 mm) long and the crown is about 0.6" (15 mm) at its widest.

 

When I pulled it from my sifting screen, my first thought was that it might be a camelid incisor. I've seen similar images online now that I'm back home with access to the internet. As this is something new for me, I'd love some confirmation. It would be great to hear from someone with more experience in finds similar to this like @Harry Pristis

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

 

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caldigger

Camelid?

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Darktooth

Wow Ken, while I cant help with ID, i just wanted to say, that's a beauty! I haven't seen a tooth like that before.

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digit
13 minutes ago, caldigger said:

Camelid?

That's my best guess at the moment.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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dalmayshun

beautiful, cool find

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Auspex
2 hours ago, caldigger said:

Camelid?

Has the look, but which one?
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Andy B

Wow. One of the coolest teeth I've seen!

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caldigger
2 hours ago, Auspex said:

Has the look, but which one?
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Judging from the shape I would probably say from this position.

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*photo courtesy of Harry Pristis archives.

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Auspex
43 minutes ago, caldigger said:

Judging from the shape I would probably say from this position.

I think you are right; now, which Camelid? Isn't there more than one candidate known from the Peace River?

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caldigger
6 minutes ago, Auspex said:

I think you are right; now, which Camelid? Isn't there more than one candidate known from the Peace River?

Ha, that question will have to go to the East coasters.  I only deal with marine critters.

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digit
8 minutes ago, Auspex said:

I think you are right; now, which Camelid? Isn't there more than one candidate known from the Peace River?

There are.

You missed my reply above--Dr. Hulbert quickly identified this as Large-headed Llama (Hemiauchenia macrocephala).

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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Shellseeker
3 hours ago, digit said:

There are.

You missed my reply above--Dr. Hulbert quickly identified this as Large-headed Llama (Hemiauchenia macrocephala).

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

Ken, I ALSO found a 1.8 inch  Hemiauchenia macrocephala incisor this weekend (about 20 miles from you). I believe mine is an i2.  I think yours is definitely more impressive!LlamaIncisorMerge.jpg.913fe6a98d9284ba3fc5ea56d5c65858.jpg

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caldigger

I think they are both impressive!

Y'all are well on your way to "Frankensteining" a llama together. Keep finding more parts!

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Tidgy's Dad
15 minutes ago, caldigger said:

I think they are both impressive!

Y'all are well on your way to "Frankensteining" a llama together. Keep finding more parts!

I may be able to help with this. :)

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caldigger
48 minutes ago, Tidgy's Dad said:

I may be able to help with this. :)

Hey!  This llama only has two real teeth and the rest of it is just a bunch of sand and water based glue!!!  :angry:

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Talltooth89
7 hours ago, caldigger said:

Judging from the shape I would probably say from this position.

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*photo courtesy of Harry Pristis archives.

Look what I found Friday night at the peace river, this had me so pumped. Only my 2nd time sifting 

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Talltooth89

Horse toe bone...? Right...?

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digit
10 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

Ken, I ALSO found a 1.8 inch  Hemiauchenia macrocephala incisor this weekend (about 20 miles from you). I believe mine is an i2.  I think yours is definitely more impressive!

I would have been overjoyed to have seen either of these show up in my sifting screen. The only other camelid finds I have are a molar or two and a proximal phalanx (toe bone).

 

Hope you found some other nice items on the river this weekend. I spent Saturday guiding 11 canoes full of first-timers on the river. All had fun and a few got some nice finds (complete 2.5" meg, some nice Equus molars, and a glyptodont rosette).

 

Hoping the river stays in range for a while (and even drops a bit further). I'd hate for this to be my first and last time out this season.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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Auspex
14 hours ago, digit said:

There are.

You missed my reply above--Dr. Hulbert quickly identified this as Large-headed Llama (Hemiauchenia macrocephala).

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

Oh, um, yes...:blush:

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Shellseeker
8 hours ago, Talltooth89 said:

Look what I found Friday night at the peace river, this had me so pumped. Only my 2nd time sifting 

 

Welcome to the forum. It is a great place for fossil hunters. 

Normally , you should add new finds for identification into a new thread in Fossil ID section or if not trying to identify into fossil hunting trips.

Please provide length and width of all your photos.

Your 1st canine tooth could be Bear or maybe dire wolf... dimensions help!!!

Your 3rd photo again requires measurements.  It is a phalanx, a toe bone. Lost of different animals have then and they are very similar... I once mistook a jaguar phalanx for deer. 

The Peace River is a fantastic place,  open for discovery.. Here is a bear canine from the peace for comparison

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sixgill pete

Wow. Amazing find Ken. That is a very cool tooth.

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