Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Hi guysI found this on the beach next to the early Eocene of the London clay at warden point at the isle of sheppey, is it just some mineral or is it a fossil ? Thanks (scale is 1cm cube) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 More phtos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I am not positive, but will call it a mineral. Doesn't look quite right for petrified wood to Me. 2 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, ynot said: I am not positive, but will call it a mineral. Doesn't look quite right for petrified wood to Me. I wasn’t quite sure either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, will stevenson said: More phtos Hi, is there any chance you would post a photo of each of these two faces zoomed in a bit more? It may just be my browser but each one is just a little out of focus (as if the camera focused on the carpet or your finger instead of the specimen). Maybe some indirect light outside (in the shade) if it is a sunny day would bring out more details. I sort of think 'palm or fern tree' when I see this. Yet, I'd like to see if the features I expect are continuous from one side to another, etc. Thanks, Kato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Teredo borings in wood I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, Rockwood said: Teredo borings in wood I think. Without more detailed pics the best I was going to postulate was palm or cycad adventitious roots. I think if this is wood of some type, due to the size, Will should be able to find more specimens in the same area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, Kato said: Hi, is there any chance you would post a photo of each of these two faces zoomed in a bit more? It may just be my browser but each one is just a little out of focus (as if the camera focused on the carpet or your finger instead of the specimen). Maybe some indirect light outside (in the shade) if it is a sunny day would bring out more details. I sort of think 'palm or fern tree' when I see this. Yet, I'd like to see if the features I expect are continuous from one side to another, etc. Thanks, Kato I can try here we go these are the highest res that will fit into the allowed storage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 On the topic of wood someone gave this to me with no information is it wood because it seems to have rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, will stevenson said: I can try here we go these are the highest res that will fit into the allowed storage Would you be able to fill the view finder and get an in-focus shot like this of both sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 Other end and side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, will stevenson said: Also, views of the top and bottom (one side circled in red here) would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Kato said: I think if this is wood of some type, due to the size, Will should be able to find more specimens in the same area. Wood does tend to be absent or common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 Close ups can’t get more focus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Rockwood said: Wood does tend to be absent or common. I did find a lot of pyritized wood there and several big pieces but nothing that looked like this take in mind there was a lot of phosphatic minerals in the area so this could have been mineralised with phosphate not pyrite? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, will stevenson said: Close ups can’t get more focus haha...perhaps not quite as close...just need to get closer than your originals and be in-focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 Ok here are some side views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark Kmiecik Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, will stevenson said: On the topic of wood someone gave this to me with no information is it wood because it seems to have rings? I'm leaning towards "yes". Easiest way to tell is to examine it under 10x or better magnification. If it's wood you will see cell structure. On the other specimen you could polish a small area of one of the ends and do the same. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, will stevenson said: I'll stick to my postulation of palm or cycad adventitious roots showing (dark circular objects). Hopefully, someone like @Plantguy will come along to make a more informed opinion than mine. Also, if you could nail down the name of the actual formation this specimen came from and location it would be helpful to a regional member. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mark Kmiecik said: I'm leaning towards "yes". Easiest way to tell if is to examine it under 10x or better magnification. If it's wood you will see cell structure. I believe so as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notidanodon Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share Posted April 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kato said: I'll stick to my postulation of palm or cycad adventitious roots showing (dark circular objects). Hopefully, someone like @Plantguy will come along to make a more informed opinion than mine. Also, if you could nail down the name of the actual formation this specimen came from and location it would be helpful to a regional member. Unfortunately it was loose in the beach so the best info I can give is London clay formation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, will stevenson said: Unfortunately it was loose in the beach so the best info I can give is London clay formation My vote is for wood. I am not able to speculate on species. 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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