Strepsodus Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I found this today in the Durham coal field, UK (upper Carboniferous). I usually collect in the Yorkshire coal field, and although this one site is obviously not representative of the whole of the Durham coal field, the Durham coal field seems notably different to the Yorkshire coal field, with some rocks similar to ones at a site where I have collected in the Fife coal field, and some of the nodules similar to the nodules found at some sites in the Lancashire coal field. Interestingly, there were some fish fossils in the same blocks as plants, and there were some large fish fragments in the same layers as foraminifera. In the Yorkshire coal field, layers containing foraminifera usually only contain very small fish fossils. My best finds today were a Rhizodont scale in a block containing plant fossils, a small fish tooth, an Elonichthys scale, a Megalichthys scale and some well preserved plant fossils. Does anyone know what this is? I’m 99% sure it’s a plant fossil. I think I have seen a similar example before, but I don’t recall where I saw it. My first thought was that it’s an arthropod fragment, though I think this is very unlikely. Thanks, Daniel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Cool finds...I'm not sure, but reminds me of Bothrodendron that Roman used to find spectacular material... https://www.ammonit.ru/text/1134.htm Not sure if he is able to visit but I'll copy him and maybe he or someone else can comment. @RomanK Regards, Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I've personally never seen plant material like that. My initial gut reaction was fish, but then I read your arthropod comment, and I would buy that as well. Can't wait to hear what others say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I don't think that fish have a camp, but if they did, I'd be in it. Nice find. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 It it were Devonian, (is there Devonian stuff in the area?), it might be Placoderm armor. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-Skull-of-new-placoderm-genus-ANU-V3505-and-B-coccosteid-nuchal-plate-ANU-V3365_fig4_222574571 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Tidgy's Dad said: I don't think that fish have a camp, but if they did, I'd be in it. Nice find. I would pitch my tent in the shark cartilage section of that camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Maybe some good close ups of the associated bones and other pieces in the rock would help with a determination. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strepsodus Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Thanks for the suggestions. There are a lot of plant fossils in the same nodule, though these nodules can contain both arthropods and fish fragments. Thanks, Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Dang no consensus yet....so I should have presented this reasoning/observation earlier...alot of times I just dont type enough and other times way too much... I was wondering if these circled areas are elliptical/diamond shapes are the remnant leaf scars...compare to Roman's closeup in his gallery. Back to the chores and oatmeal...have a good finish to the weekend! Regards, Chris 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strepsodus Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 On 4/14/2019 at 7:35 AM, Plantguy said: Dang no consensus yet....so I should have presented this reasoning/observation earlier...alot of times I just dont type enough and other times way too much... I was wondering if these circled areas are elliptical/diamond shapes are the remnant leaf scars...compare to Roman's closeup in his gallery. Back to the chores and oatmeal...have a good finish to the weekend! Regards, Chris Thanks. I think that identification is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 And now that leaf scar comparison is pretty compelling... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 On 4/14/2019 at 7:35 AM, Plantguy said: Dang no consensus yet....so I should have presented this reasoning/observation earlier...alot of times I just dont type enough and other times way too much... They do seem regular enough to be leaf scars, and the similarity in size and shape supports that also. The texture of the rest of it is not familiar. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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