belemniten Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Last Sunday I was for about 6 hours in the quarry Kromer (Lower Jurassic) near Holzmaden (Germany) and I was kinda successful there. Besides several teeth I found a beautiful piece with croc bones. At first only a cross section of a bone was visible but during the preparation some more bones got visible. I am not finished yet but I prepped about 4 hours until now. This is a picture of the unprepped stone: And after 1.5 hours: I will post a picture of the current state today... I am very excited about this find because crocodile material is much rarer than Ichthyosaur material in Holzmaden. And I never found such a croc bone until now. I am really not sure what type of bone it is. Maybe from the pelvis or from the shoulder? 8 Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamL Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Looking really interesting mate 1 Yorkshire Coast Fossil Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 hours ago, LiamL said: Looking really interesting mate Thanks Liam Here is the current state after 4 and a half hour: 1 Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstraktum Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Marvelous find and preparation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 @belemniten I'm no expert on the matter, but what makes you certain that these are croc bones? 1 Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 16 hours ago, Abstraktum said: Marvelous find and preparation Thanks 15 hours ago, Ludwigia said: @belemniten I'm no expert on the matter, but what makes you certain that these are croc bones? Thats a good question. I already showed the piece to a friend and expert but there was only the cross section of the bone which I marked visible: At that point he said it could be crocodile and in my eyes the bone structure is right for crocodile but I will ask him again soon... As you can see I prepped a bit more: I think it took about 6 hours until now but there is still some work to do .... For example I don't like that gap in the broken bone... And I also have to do some fine work on this bone: Tomorrow I will post a picture with a ruler and with better lighting conditions. 2 Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Is that a pelvis? 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 18.4.2019 at 4:19 AM, Mark Kmiecik said: Is that a pelvis? Thats a good possibility but I am really not sure... Sorry I forgot the picture with a ruler and now I am for 4 days not at home. I will post new information about the piece when I get them ... Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgdls Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 To me it looks like plesiosaur dentaries, interclavical and possible intermedium. Great find! regards Paul 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted April 20, 2019 Author Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 hours ago, paulgdls said: To me it looks like plesiosaur dentaries, interclavical and possible intermedium. Great find! regards Paul Hi Paul, thank you That would be absolutely awesome Do you have any pictures of similar (plesiosaur) bones? Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manticocerasman Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Nice find Sebastian. Plesiosaur would be awesome, this is high on our bucket list 1 growing old is mandatory but growing up is optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Manticocerasman said: Nice find Sebastian. Plesiosaur would be awesome, this is high on our bucket list Thanks Kevin That would be indeed very rare ... I think only 13 complete or scattered remains of Plesiosaur were found in Holzmaden, although people hunt there since a very long time. Would be so happy if it's really Plesiosaur Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 NICE find Seb,congrats! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgdls Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Seb, There are few good illustrations of a plesiosaur interclavical. It is a symmetrical bone in the pectoral girdle, possibly the only one. The attachment points on the side of the phalange are very characteristic of the plesiosauria. See Muraenosaurus from the Oxford Clay (Andrews) for this illustration of the interclavical. Hope this is right. Any chance of finding some more of the specimen? Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 21 hours ago, doushantuo said: NICE find Seb,congrats! Thanks Ben 13 hours ago, paulgdls said: There are few good illustrations of a plesiosaur interclavical. It is a symmetrical bone in the pectoral girdle, possibly the only one. The attachment points on the side of the phalange are very characteristic of the plesiosauria. See Muraenosaurus from the Oxford Clay (Andrews) for this illustration of the interclavical. Thanks for your help Paul I am now almost certain that you are right. I will show it to a local expert next Sunday to be absolutely sure. 13 hours ago, paulgdls said: Hope this is right. Any chance of finding some more of the specimen? I don't think there is a big chance to find the rest. But I will try it next weekend... 1 Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterpillar Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 In toarcian level, crocs are rarer than plesiosaurs 1 http://www.paleotheque.fr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 hours ago, caterpillar said: In toarcian level, crocs are rarer than plesiosaurs In general that might be right but in Holzmaden Plesiosaur are much rarer than crocodiles. Maybe this was caused by the fact that Holzmadem wasn't far away from the coast. For example I found at my last visit about 5 crocodile teeth there and no Plesiosaur teeth (I never found a Plesiosaur tooth there until now). Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natalie81 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Oh men, i'm jealous What a great find and really nice preparation! Congratulations Sebastian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belemniten Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Natalie81 said: Oh men, i'm jealous What a great find and really nice preparation! Congratulations Sebastian! Thanks @Natalie81 Probably my find of the year so far ... 1 Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils Regards Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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