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Our fossil club gained access to a quarry in Central Iowa. The quarry exposes most of the Cedar Valley Formation, so I can not break it down any farther than this, as the fossil was found in a pile of rubble. When I found this specimen, I showed it to 4 different individuals, all of whom called it placoderm  "tooth". My research upon arriving home could not find placoderm examples resembling this find. So I am leaning towards a shark tooth??????? Your assistance is appreciated to helping me ID this:

 

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Very cool looking--and well out of my league. Look forward to learning along with you on this one.

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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:popcorn:

 

 

Mark.

 

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It’s placoderm. Your piece is the back of the jaw. I’ve forgotten the name, maybe I can find it somewhere.

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Great!!!!!!!!! Florida has spoiled me with shark's teeth. So I was really hoping it was placoderm!

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I remember what type of placoderm- it is from a small placoderm called Ptyctodus. Not to be confused with the Cretaceous Ptychodus.

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Fantastic find. 

Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt
behind the trailer, my desert
Them red clay piles are heaven on earth
I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt

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Awesome find Mike! Congrats:thumbsu:

Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there!

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I'm thinking FotM, (if it qualifies) Mike. ;) 

Great find! :wub: 

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Yup. It would be nice for this to be admired by a wider audience on the forum.

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

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Mike, Mike,

You did not tell me that you had a Placoderm teeth site. Congrats !!!! How many of these do you REALLY have ? :thumbsu:

Apologies.  I needed to give  @Northern Sharks full credit for this outstanding photo:

 

 

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@Elasmohunter, the forum has spoken!!!

 

@Shellseeker, I also stumbled onto @Northern Shark's picture. His puts mine to shame but it is labeled "unusual shark's teeth" . This is incorrect??? Placoderms were NOT sharks from my limited understanding???

 

 To everyone else, thanks for appreciating my find!!!

 

Mike

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8 minutes ago, minnbuckeye said:

@Elasmohunter, the forum has spoken!!!

 

@Shellseeker, I also stumbled onto @Northern Shark's picture. His puts mine to shame but it is labeled "unusual shark's teeth" . This is incorrect??? Placoderms were NOT sharks from my limited understanding???

 

 To everyone else, thanks for appreciating my find!!!

 

Mike

You are correct, placoderms were not sharks. I already had the album and I didn't feel the need to create a new one for non-shark teeth considering I have so few.

There's no limit to what you can accomplish when you're supposed to be doing something else

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It is so confusing because Ptyctodus was also a cretaceous shark. This is what lead to my confusion over this find as I searched for an ID. They should change the name of one or the other to help with this.

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33 minutes ago, minnbuckeye said:

It is so confusing because Ptyctodus was also a cretaceous shark. This is what lead to my confusion over this find as I searched for an ID. They should change the name of one or the other to help with this.

Ptychodus: Cretaceous shark

Ptyctodus: Devonian placoderm

The names are close but not the same.  The rule in taxonomy is that names within a kingdom must be unique, but a single letter difference is enough to make a name unique.  There isn't a valid reason to change either name.  The situation is not so uncommon, in Entomology there are many examples of similar but slightly different names.  When you are making literally millions of species it's impossible to avoid this.

 

Don

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My mistake!!

7 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said:

Ptychodus: Cretaceous shark

Ptyctodus: Devonian placoderm

 

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I admit when I first saw Ptyctodus I thought "wait, isn't that a Cretaceous shark?". It is confusing.

 

Don

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