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I got this box of fossil from auction at the low price of £21. The collection is old and dates between 1933 and 1944 . Some of the collection has labels but sadly others are lost or mixed up.  Most of the locations are from Yorkshire but there is also Oxfordshire and the midlands.  I  purchased this lot because of the small collection of corals. The some of the corals have been cut and polished. I did re-polished most of them because they seamed to have a coating to finish the process. There is also some nice plant material from coal seams it is good to get this material from now in the Uk lost localities . Please if anyone can help me  fill in the blanks I have added locations I have the labels too, Robin Hoods Bay, Leeds, Wakefield , Whitby , Buckinghamshire and Midlands. I will do a better list of locations when Mrs R gets home because I can’t read some of the hand writing. I think it is a great little collection. Thanks for looking. Cheers Bobby

 

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plant stuff

 

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7) woods and calamities 

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3) sorry this got mixed up

 

 

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Brachiopods and other stuff

 

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12)  hash plate with part of a Dudley bug 

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And finally some nice little ammonites from Yorkshire I think.

 

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Adam and Tarquin @Tidgy's Dad and @TqB if you get anytime over the next week or weekend if possible can you please fill in any of the blanks. Cheers both Bobby 

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Absolutely great for that price, Bobby. :default_clap2:

Some really nice pieces there. 

I particularly love the Carboniferous gastropods, but also the brachiopods of course. 

And some of the plants and bivalves are great too.

And the goniatite at the top of your last section on ammonites. 

Could you post us all the loose labels that you have please? 

It will probably be much easier putting labels to the correct specimen than guessing based on morphology without location details or age. 

Good stuff. :drool: 

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Nice acquisitions, some very nice pieces you've got your hands on! :) 

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Hi Bobby, neat collection! As Adam says, give us the labels with numbers and we'll try to match them up - I can get close on most of corals and a few others but it would be good to have locations. :)

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About $27 USD. That's a great price for that bunch. 

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The label are “ fern Neuropteris coal measures, Carboniferous Leeds”,   “Diburnophyllum L. Carboniferous, ing ? York’s “,  “Alethopteris seatle , Robin Hood S . Yorkshire “,  Lithostr ? Coral Carboniferous Crossfield, Cumbria “,    “Pseudopecten lower Jurassic, Blockley Glos”,   “Corals Carboniferous Limeston Cumbria “,    Pleurotomaria Cretaceous chalk , Beer Head Dorset?” and Inoceramus Sulcatus Gault Clay  ?

 

sorry this is the best I can make out of the label it may help us. Thank you both @Tidgy's Dad and @TqB

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This is the best label it out of the bunch that free from the fossil.

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Number 4 in the plant section is the Neuropteris.

Number 5 in the coral section for Dibunophyllum. (not Diburnophyllum) But Tarquin will know more and hopefully confirm this.

Number 3 in plants looks like Alethopteris serlii. 

The first few of the corals could be what what used to be a big group called Lithostrotion, but they've all been renamed, so Tarquin will help you out here, i think.

The Pseudopecten must be number 7 in the brachiopods and bivalves section. 

13 in the gastropods section look like Gault fossils, so the Plearotomaria, though the name is probably different now. 

I'm not sure about the Inoceramus sulcatus. But it could be the one to the far right in picture 3 of the shells section. 

 

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Plant section guesses! 

No 1. Sphenopteris.

No 5 Annularia. 

 

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In the brachiopods and stuff section i'm not sure about 1 but could we have a shot of the 'beak' please as I think it could be a bivalve from the Gault like no.2 which is Nucula sp. I think. 

The three on the left are Middle Jurassic rhynchonellid brachiopods, but without provenance I wouldn't like to guess at a more precise id. 

4. is three different species of spiriferid brachiopods from the Lower Carboniferous limestone series, but again i can't really do more than random guessing without location information. 

5. I think the one at bottom right is the Lower Carboniferous brachiopod Chonetes sp. to the left of it the bivalve Carbonicola and above it another bivalve Posidonia, both Upper Carboniferous. Top left, Lower carboniferous brachiopod Schizophoria ? 

8. Nice Lower Carboniferous productid brachiopod, maybe Antiquatonia, but could be several others so just productid is probably best.

9. Look like middle Jurassic rhynchonellids but if that is a barnacle in the rock I'm not sure at all. But the others are rhynchonellids.

10.  Ah, the same as above, broken fossils full of crystals, Middle Jurassic rhynchonellids. So that's probably not a barnacle in 9. 

10 Also what looks to be Productus itself. 

11 . Venericor planicosta maybe from Bracklesham by the loos of it. 

12. Archaeofenestella rigidula is the bryozoan at the bottom, if I remember from my recent Wenlock research. 

14. Lower Carboniferous planispiral gastropod. Straparollus? Euomphalus?

16.  Can we see the ends, please? I can't decide if this is a nautiloid or a crinoid. 

 

 

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In the ammonites section, 1 is definitely a goniatite and i think Lower Carboniferous. Goniatites elegans? 

The ammonites are probably Liassic (L. Jurassic) from the Yorkshire coast, but I'll let others guess first! 

That last label, the Calamites one, probably belongs to plant section number 7. Right hand centre. 

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@Tidgy's Dad thank you so much Adam I will look though it later and photograph number 16 . I can’t thank you enough. All the best Bobby 

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Corals:

1) Diphyphyllum

2) Siphonodendron

3)Lithostrotion vorticale - I've seen similar from near Arnside, Cumbria

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5)probably Dibunophyllum

6) Siphonodendron

7) Siphonodendron or Diphyphyllum

8) crinoidal limestone

 

Of course, apart from the Dibunophyllum, all of those were once included in Lithostrotion.

 

I think no.7 in the brachs/bivalves could be the Pseudopecten from Blockley. EDIT: this is rubbish! I mean Oxytoma cygnipes...

 

I'll go with Adam for most of the others! - though I don't think Goniatites is a valid genus nowadays and goniatites are very tricky to ID.

 

 

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39 minutes ago, TqB said:

Corals

Thank you so much I really appreciate the help. It is always risky buying old collections but it can mean you find fossils from lots locations like now closed coal mines or develop sites. There a few more labels but with my dyslexic Mrs R will help me and I post later. The dates are interesting 1 at 1933,  3 at 1936, 2 at 1937, 3 at 1938 , 1 in February 1939 (cold to go fossil hunting in Feb) and then 2 at 1944. It does possible look like they may have gone and came back from the war.

 

Thank again mate you and Adam have really helped. Cheers Bobby 

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48 minutes ago, TqB said:

think no.7 in the brachs/bivalves could be the Pseudopecten from Blockley.

That’s interesting I was a long way off this I thought it was an Oxytoma . Thank again 

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8 minutes ago, Bobby Rico said:

That’s interesting I was a long way off this I thought it was an Oxytoma . Thank again 

You're completely right! What was I thinking, been under a bit of stress lately :D - looks like an Oxytoma cygnipes  (which occurs with Pseudopecten on the Yorkshire coast).

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1 hour ago, TqB said:

You're completely right! What was I thinking, been under a bit of stress lately :D - looks like an Oxytoma cygnipes  (which occurs with Pseudopecten on the Yorkshire coast).

Your wrong very rarely and I am right very rarely. So in my opinion between us we have restored the natural balance of the universe.  :D 

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31 minutes ago, Bobby Rico said:

Your wrong very rarely and I am right very rarely. So in my opinion between us we have restored the natural balance of the universe.  :D 

You're right more often than not! 

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Great pickup at that price. Love old collections you never know what you can find and some areas are not accessable any more.

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